DNP - cutting off slowly (125mg)

[Pluti]

Hello,

I wanted to start a short cycle with DNP, taking time for this, doing it "safely".

I've read for days and weeks through every forum, report, page etc.

I think I'm gonna take 125mg first day. Waiting 2 days to see if everything is ok. Than at day 3 125mg and day 4 125mg, waiting again 2 days to watch and so on.

Could this be helpful? I don't want to lose tons of fat, just a little bit. And I have enough time.

Other supps not listed yet.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Pluti]

Anyone?

In addition: May I drink Cola and Ice Tea on DNP or is it not good because of the water household?

Will start at Monday or Tuesday, when my supps will arrive. Not sure yet if I should do a log here. Could be very boring, so oversecure I will do this cycle.

Edit: Does anyone have experiences with the isotonic drinks? Are they good for the electrolyts household when I drink too much water and have to less electrolyts?

 

[riprockwell]

Hello,

I wanted to start a short cycle with DNP, taking time for this, doing it "safely".

I've read for days and weeks through every forum, report, page etc.

I think I'm gonna take 125mg first day. Waiting 2 days to see if everything is ok. Than at day 3 125mg and day 4 125mg, waiting again 2 days to watch and so on.

Could this be helpful? I don't want to lose tons of fat, just a little bit. And I have enough time.

Other supps not listed yet.

Thanks in advance.

I have a problem with the bold. There is nothing safe about DNP. Did you read what it is you are ingesting in to your body?? Poison son. Straight poison. I can speak on this as I ran DNP back in the day. It was a dumb decision. Why don't you just diet and if you really want something to help with metabolism, get on T3. Why are you worried about Ice Tea or Coke?? You start to sweat your ass off like crazy on DNP and the only thing you need to worry about is drinking water. Get with 3J in the diet forum. If you choose to cycle DNP and not listen, then that is your choice. You need to hit up 3J in the diet forum or post your diet in here and lets see what you are eating.

 

[Pluti]

Does anyone have further informations or could answer my questions?

Thanks to you, rip, but that's not what I'm asking about. DNP can be pretty save, as I'm reading all around the web, if you take precautions and go with knowledge into the cycle. But for that I need answers. (If it calms you down, it will be 84mg per day, never saw anybody dosing it such low lol)

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

I'll get the usual out of the way before giving you real advice: make sure your diet/lifting is in check, plenty of protein, caloric deficit etc.

Now your dosing of DNP depends on your weight - I suggest starting at 2mg/kg of weight. What you've stated sounds very sensible if it fits into that guideline.
Please drink water exclusively - coke will dehydrate you further so its a terrible idea. Most of the horror stories you hear are due to dehydration - make sure your water intake is very high, I'm talking gallons here.
Also, DNP does tend to cause water retention hiding your fat loss so please DO NOT START INCREASING YOUR DOSE RAPIDLY. Once your off the cycle you will see the results - which are always excellent
Minimise any exercise your doing - I did a basic full body routine 2x week. That's it. No cardio. NO HIIT. Nothing else. The DNP will do the rest for you.
Also make sure you have at least a small caloric deficit. Don't get me wrong, you can still lose fat but its a waste of money to binge and take DNP. Maximise your cycle to the fullest.
As for supplements - I highly suggest searching for concilliator's posts here, I followed his advice and got excellent results (3 week: 12.4% - 6.9%bf).
Feel free to task any other questions before you start. Good luck.

 

[Pluti]

Hey Zillla!

Thanks for your respond

I do 125mg. Maybe, I dont know yet, I will go for taking 125mg every 36h (hl), if I doesnt feel that comfortable. This lowdose should let me feel more comfortable than other logs were experiencing I guess. So next dose is tomorrow at 12:30 (24h) or 00:30 (36h). I wont rapid the dose up. I read several times at beginning you wont feel much but it's working. So staying secure and wait until day 4 or 5, but I dont know yet if I will/can do 250mg a day. Anyway, the results should be there with 125mg, too.

What can you tell me about the cycle length? Actually I wanted to do 125mg 7-10 days. But with that low dose could I go for 14-21 days, max.?

Coke is stroken out of my drinking list, only water and IsoDrinks. Do you drink in regular intervalls (say all 2-3h) or only if you feel thirsty?

Will read thorugh the posts of DNP guru now

Thanks for help

Edit: I have Glycerol here, 99.5%. I took it and it was a bit different as 85% (logically) which was definitely good. But they write on the bottle I shouldnt take it. Do I have to worry about the 99.5%?

Also, do I have to supp T3? There are split opinions on it. Actually I dont see a reason, even the low T3 after day 2-3. The body will go for homoestasis after the DNP cycle. But actually 12.5mcg (half the production) couldnt be dangerous, could it?

Anyone can tell what the peak is if I take 125mg/250mg/4 days 125, then 250mg for 7-14 days? Have in mind for 250mg it should be around 550mg peak.

I'm taking Desloratadin (because of Urticaria) and for night Ketotifen or Benocten (I think thats known for you under Benedryl or something). Have eaten porridge now, wait too hot inside my body, hotter than other times. lol I think next time I take it cool, not hot. Lucky me it's minus temps outside, hello balcony

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

Your correct - you will see the results even at the low doses. As for cycle length, I really haven't seen any evidence of sustained damage on longer cycles if the dose is controlled. Do your current cycle for 2 weeks and then see how you feel, most people seem to stay on it until they reach their goals unless the side effects become too uncomfortable (sweats, rashes, etc).
I would drink around a litre of water per hour as a routine, I strongly recommend you drink regularly - thirsty or not. As I said before, the biggest and most serious danger of DNP is dehydration .
As for your supp questions again I would redirect you to the "DNP guru" & his posts. However, I can confirm that T3 is completely unnecessary unless your going to be on DNP for a long period of time (months, not weeks).

 

[Pluti]

Thank you again, Zilla

I do not think that I will have big troubles if I drink enough, watch my electrolyte household, keeping myself cool and so on. Will observe and maybe go for 250mg. The biggest problem is the Urticaria which I have sometimes. So taking Desloratadine for it and at night Ketotifen for beta-receptor-up-regulation, sleeping aid and anti-Urticaria. (Taking ECY with it, when I'm very hungry.)

You say many people stay until they reach their goal. But how can they reach their goal if you look 3 days after cessing DNP the best?

1l water per hour, ay sir!

I wont do it for months. Max 3 weeks than I need energy and cant be like a zombie. But maybe I'll feel well with 125mg a day, dont know yet.

Edit: I assume the answer will be yes, but I'm asking anyway: Will there be a good enough result, too with 125mg all 2 days? It seems I'm a bit allergic. I dont think it's due to DNP but more due to heat my body is producing. I had this problem my whole life. Got a few red spots and my face seems to be peeling off lol Not dramatically but only a bit. (As every winter, due to cold, maybe a bit dehydrated, but have already drunk like 5-6l.)

 

[Pluti]

Red spots are gone more or less. It could also be due to too much Vitamin B or D. So I want supp them now. Face is better, have to cream it up regularly. Will now supp Vita C, E, ALA, NAC, ECY when necessary (hungry), Ketotifen, maybe Taurine and have a Isodrink ready at night when I wake up to nip a bit electrolytes.

Will aim for 48h 125mg. Tapper it up slowly to be safe. Maybe that seems oversafe for some but I dont want to mess me up. Everything ok as of now.

Anyone knows how to contact Conciliator? Even in Meso-Rx he wasnt online for months. I have read like every post he did in the web lol Theres a question left:

"The hyperpyrexia and lethality of 2,4-DNP have been significantly diminished in rats by pretreatment with haloperidol (Gatz and Jones 1972). Further in vitro experiments suggested that haloperidol interfered (probably indirectly by an action at the mitochondrial membrane) with the uncoupling of oxidative phosphorylation by 2,4-DNP. Hence haloperidol may be a candidate for further investigation as an antidote to 2,4-DNP."

Source: atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/tp64.pdf (Page 141)

So why we havent heard of Haloperidol as an antidote, only Dantrolene and balancing the electrolytes with infusions of NaCl and maltodextrine?

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

The side effects your getting means you should definetly avoid any increases in dosage and limit your cycle for 2 weeks, your body clearly isn't happy with the DNP. The stronger the sides, the lower the dose needs to go.
As for supplements:
ECY is a terrible idea since you want to avoid anything that increases your temperature further on DNP (I know the carb cravings are strong but ECY isn't the answer). Ketotifen won't do any harm but I dont think it will benefit you either - the receptor up regulation effects will be minimal due to the DNP influence (DNP doesn't work the same way as Clen).
As for the Haloperidol study, your not a rat

 

[Pluti]

Hey there!

After coming off from the 125mg DNP because I was a bit scared of the high temperature (37° C) and the "rash" I tried it once again 3 days ago. So in the last 3 days I took 125mg all 12h. The peak I reached was 415mg. I dont sweat, I dont feel warm (in Switzerland it's snowing sometimes and it's very cold) because my window is opened all time. I couldn't fine any yellow body fluids. The "rash" was actually a rash due to the stacking of about 15 supps lol So I decided I just take the important ones: Vita C, E, if I need to Potassium and Taurin, ECY when hungry, Ketotifen and I think about taking ALA again, but I think atm it's just a waste because my glycogen stores aren't depleted, yet.

I will dose up to 125mg all 8h, reaching a peak of almost 650mg after 4-5 days. I dont think I will go for more. I cant even tell if 650mg is manageable, but I think when I have with 400mg no sideeffects (only a dry mouth, not even headache, taking pre-bed and post-bed isodrinks and eating and drinking clean [water+meat+vegetables+fruits+rice]) it won't be a problem for 650mg. The only problem is that I can't do a longer cycle because I have to visit my fiancée for Valentine's day and I want good results for this cycle because I won't have that many DNP left for another.

As of now I dont know if the DNP will work. Have dropped I think 1kg, I bet it's water. Maybe I shoulnt eat carbs in the next 2 days, so my stores can deplete.

Anyone can tell if that is normal what I experience? (It's not fake DNP, it's true. I could name the source. Many guys bought from him and you would know him, too.)

Do I have to worry about something if I stick to upping the dose and going further as I did the last days? Will I dehydrate even faster if my glycogen stores are depleted? I think as of now I have each day 3-5 liters, not that much, but it just feels ok and I dont feel any side. (Except I do exercise, then I can feel the heat really badly and I would get short-breathed.)

For those who are interested in. I took 125mg pre-bed, so I wont feel the crystal DNP affecting me too much because it takes 4-5 hours or so and after 12 hours (I sleep 8-10h) you wont feel much. The other dose is at noon. But I dont feel much, either.

My temperature is constant 37° C, sometimes 37.3° C. I'd stop at 38.5° C or 125mg all 8h.

Blowing with my fan at my head feels so damn good at the morning lol I dont know but I sleep even better than other times, maybe it's due to Ketotifen.

I'd say I'm very tolerant to medis because as a baby I had to take many antibiotics. But that isnt a medi, it's actually a pesticid or herbicid.

May anyone explain why I have no sides, yet? Actually I'd say my dose is rather low. But I am near to the peak of the recommended 200mg (550mg). And why havent I lost that much, yet? I know magic pills doesnt exist but with DNP you should dehydrate and in the first days you should drop water weight as hell, shouldnt you? I remember having lost about 4-6kgs in the first days in a keto diet. When your glyco-stores get depleted. So it wasnt fat at this point.

@Zilla: You have done some cycles with DNP, haven't you? Can you tell me little bit more about the results and the progress? How much of your weight have you kept off from your body? How much fat have you burned? When did you see any weightloss? Would you deplete the glyco-stores with say 2 day no carbs?

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

I regret giving you advice to start your cycle since you clearly have no idea what your doing & haven't researched enough. How long have you been training/dieting? Probably not long enough.

I'm going to keep this simple because I can tell by your posts that your convinced it isn't working and want to increase the dose.
If your eating a high protein, low calorie diet (Keto or PSMF) along with the DNP - you will lose more fat than you ever have on anything else. Stop focusing on "clean" food (how is fruit going to help you lose fat???) & focus on HIGH PROTEIN & LOW CALORIES - that's it.
Stop worrying about carb depletion, increase your water intake to a gallon per day (I drank 2 gallons = 10 litres) and keep your workouts short but intense (no need for any cardio). DNP causes water retention so you won't truly see the results until you finish your cycle.

Also, please don't pretend that your tolerant to meds when you just had a bad reaction to DNP. The fact that you see DNP as a pesticide rather than a med shows how poor your research was. Stick to your current dose for at least 7 days - if you still feel fine, then you can up it.

I've cycled DNP twice with success but my best results came when I combined it with keto (my dose was 300mg). It causes water retention so I only really saw my results a week after I stopped the cycle; both times it helped me get into the 5-7%bf range.

 

[relom]

sounds to me like you need to do more research.

The minor side-effects usually subside if you plough through, 125mg is a rather small dose so don't expect miracles. 125mg will increase your BMR 15%(maybe less, maybe more depending on genetics), but you'll also be hungier so it won't do that much.

250-300mg of crystal a day got my best results.

Oh, and just drink w/e you're thirsty for.

 

[LeanBane]

Hello,

I wanted to start a short cycle with DNP, taking time for this, doing it "safely".

I've read for days and weeks through every forum, report, page etc.

I think I'm gonna take 125mg first day. Waiting 2 days to see if everything is ok. Than at day 3 125mg and day 4 125mg, waiting again 2 days to watch and so on.

Could this be helpful? I don't want to lose tons of fat, just a little bit. And I have enough time.

Other supps not listed yet.

Thanks in advance.

Bruh, if you're only trying to lose a little bit of fat. Go into a deficit of 500 cals a day add in a little cardio to your training regimen with a clean diet and you'll lose a little bit of fat in no time. You don't need to threaten your life with such a dangerous supplement. Stop looking for an easy way out.

 

[madrussian]

can you guys help me out with a source just pm me thanks, madrussian