Do many of us throw away a 500mg (half a 10Ml vial) every year??

[halfape211]

I'm talking about wasting the testosterone or whatever product you are injecting. (1) throwing out the test that is in the withdrawal needle equals about 500mg a year roughly and (2) leaving some test in the 25G injection needle wastes more. If you inject twice a week, just multiply the waste in each needle by 104. It does add up. To those who have an endless supply, it may not be a big deal. But to those who are under doctor TRT, it may be important.

To save the test from (1) staying in the withdrawal needle it's easy to move the plunger back until there is no product in the needle. Perhaps most do this.
But on (2) you have to leave a little bit of air in the needle so that you use up the product in the needle shaft. Some would say, that what remains in the base and shaft of a needle is not worth the trouble to save. I say that's a matter of opinion, and whichever side you are on you are 100% correct.

But If you want to save up a little for an 'emergency', this is one way to do it.

Let's see how much this stirs things up, shall we.

 

[Doggy Style]

I'm talking about wasting the testosterone or whatever product you are injecting. (1) throwing out the test that is in the withdrawal needle equals about 500mg a year roughly and (2) leaving some test in the 25G injection needle wastes more. If you inject twice a week, just multiply the waste in each needle by 104. It does add up. To those who have an endless supply, it may not be a big deal. But to those who are under doctor TRT, it may be important.

To save the test from (1) staying in the withdrawal needle it's easy to move the plunger back until there is no product in the needle. Perhaps most do this.
But on (2) you have to leave a little bit of air in the needle so that you use up the product in the needle shaft. Some would say, that what remains in the base and shaft of a needle is not worth the trouble to save. I say that's a matter of opinion, and whichever side you are on you are 100% correct.

But If you want to save up a little for an 'emergency', this is one way to do it.

Let's see how much this stirs things up, shall we.

Are you serious ?

 

[Megatron28]

Another great way to save a few pennies every year is to divide your 2-ply toilet paper. Then you get twice as much!

 

[halfape211]

Another great way to save a few pennies every year is to divide your 2-ply toilet paper. Then you get twice as much!

Ah shit. That's seriously funny.
There was a time when I was on a test dose that was very low and I did not have access to a source. That skimping and a few other things helped me save up for those 'emergencies'. I'm not saying it's the way to go for everyone and I'm glad to get opinions on both sides. But, many on this forum have been at this for some time and have all the test they want, but for some it's not that way.
Remember, if you have absolutely no access to any test, except that which your doctor gives you and you are closely monitored, you need to get creative. And I'm sure I'm not the only one.

And Mega, my friend And I'm not trying to save money, I was trying to save up test. I can get all the toilet paper I want. lol But from your side, it is funny. NO harm taken, man. You're the best

There you go, I am getting some reaction!!!!

 

[Doggy Style]

Ah shit. That's seriously funny.
There was a time when I was on a test dose that was very low and I did not have access to a source. That skimping and a few other things helped me save up for those 'emergencies'. I'm not saying it's the way to go for everyone and I'm glad to get opinions on both sides. But, many on this forum have been at this for some time and have all the test they want, but for some it's not that way.
Remember, if you have absolutely no access to any test, except that which your doctor gives you and you are closely monitored, you need to get creative. And I'm sure I'm not the only one.

And Mega, my friend And I'm not trying to save money, I was trying to save up test. I can get all the toilet paper I want. lol But from your side, it is funny.

There you go, I am getting some reaction!!!!

If you are that poor i would not use gear in the first place. What about food ?

 

[Mprtz]

If you are that poor i would not use gear in the first place. What about food ?

What about reading the post?

 

[halfape211]

If you are that poor i would not use gear in the first place. What about food ?

Now, Doggy, Let's be nice. This is not your chance to try to impress others. I posted this thread to invite discussion and opinions. If you are one of those who need to show off by dissing others, other members will figure this out. It's obvious that you are young and as such you don't quite have the confidence that one might get with age. You're probably a great guy, but you might need to mature if you are going to interact in a friendly manner, in this forum. I'm confident enough in myself to post something which is not mainstream and I don't mind being teased a little. I thought the toilet paper remark was funny as hell. I don't need to be told I'm poor or stupid or whatever. I have my faults, believe me. But being poor (and stupid) is definitely not one of my shortcomings. lol
So I hope we can get along, but if not that's ok too.
I can see from your posts, you have no shortage of sources.

 

[halfwit]

Draw the air to displace the oil in the vial, push air into vial and draw the oil, draw an extra 0.2cc to pull the oil from the drawing needle, replace the drawing needle with the injecting needle. Push air out until a very small amount of oil comes out the tip of the needle, then draw 0.1-0.15cc of air. Flip the syringe upside down (after swabbing the site - I do the vial tops and site at the same time so they dry) and inject. The air at the top will clear the oil out of the needle.

Then, I draw the full 3cc of syringe volume full of air and squirt it on my knee. It does nothing, but at least I'm not wasting any! You'd be surprised at how much also sticks to the walls of a syringe, but it's just a sacrifice to the swole gods LOL.

 

[halfape211]

Draw the air to displace the oil in the vial, push air into vial and draw the oil, draw an extra 0.2cc to pull the oil from the drawing needle, replace the drawing needle with the injecting needle. Push air out until a very small amount of oil comes out the tip of the needle, then draw 0.1-0.15cc of air. Flip the syringe upside down (after swabbing the site - I do the vial tops and site at the same time so they dry) and inject. The air at the top will clear the oil out of the needle.

Then, I draw the full 3cc of syringe volume full of air and squirt it on my knee. It does nothing, but at least I'm not wasting any! You'd be surprised at how much also sticks to the walls of a syringe, but it's just a sacrifice to the swole gods LOL.

And I was beginning to think I was smarter than you. lol

 

[Mprtz]

I would have thought that the squeegeeing action of the plunger seal would get pretty much everything off the syringe walls...

 

[Megatron28]

I would have thought that the squeegeeing action of the plunger seal would get pretty much everything off the syringe walls...

One would think, but there is always some left.

 

[oldmusclemike]

And I was beginning to think I was smarter than you. lol

That's funny, lol.
I will say this on issue. Leaving a little bubble, if done right will expel all of the oil. How ever even with me being on SSD I just can't concern myself. I am so fvckin tired of squeezing this and that with my budget it feels so good to not worry about the this little item. I never think about it. AND will not start.

PS: man it was my father that came thru the depression and was a penny pinching Jewish man.

 

[halfape211]

I think most of the waste is in the needle shaft and needle base. I do however realize that I'm anal and an out of the box thinker, So I could come up with any opinion or theory at any time. And I welcome those who oppose my views, since it is just my viewpoint.

And to Doggy Style. no hard feelings, bud. I'm far from fucking perfect.

 

[halfwit]

And I was beginning to think I was smarter than you. lol

Haha, let's just say that I'm every bit as anal and only know these things because I have a head start in this stuff.

I would have thought that the squeegeeing action of the plunger seal would get pretty much everything off the syringe walls...

I think it has to do with the internal pressure of the syringe and how the walls of the plunger go concave instead of convex. I bet there are some designs out there that do go convex, but I bet getting flow through them is a nightmare.

 

[oldmusclemike]

The best syringes were the old glass ones. The plunger and the cylinder were serial numbered to fit and were not interchangeable.

I used to main line with them ( dad was a MD so...) if you had fluid in it and held it upside down the plunger would just drop out. So when IV you need to aspirate so you know you're in. When the needle would tap the vein it would back up by itself due to your own BP. Hee hee hee. SO when half empty just let go and it would register by itself, again BP so you now you were still in.

That's why I tell these guys when perpendicular to the vein, how the Fvck are you goin to stay in to inject any amount of oil in your vein, if it is so hard to do it IV. ...just a note


Ooops where did I go with this thread/ Oh talking about designs of syringes.

 

[halfape211]

Oldmusclemike: Just like I said, you must be like 80 or 90 to remember this stuff. Come on.., admit it.

 

[oldmusclemike]

Oldmusclemike: Just like I said, you must be like 80 or 90 to remember this stuff. Come on.., admit it.

Ya know I said this on another thread. It sometimes boggles my mind as to some of the things I've done and wonder how and why I am still alive. Being a doctor's son living on Miami Beach in the 50's n 60's and the bouncing back n forth to my old Jewish relatives in NY to the hippy generation n Woodstock , I've witnessed a lot of big change. Anyone at my age has seen much but some just grew up in one town and weren't exposed to so much.

I tell you though sometimes it's hard to live with the remorse of what I did with all of it. And these young bucks ( like me years ago) think they know soooo much.

I only have some hard earned wisdom.

PS: I tell you through all this and the young should heed, I never thought I would go from wealth and a 36 year marriage ending with me living alone in a small apt and my greatest wish now is to find a good woman to finish off the rest of life.

 

[halfape211]

We all have a past. We all made mistakes. We all have some baggage.

What you are going thru is the same as everyone else that has gone thru a divorce.

It will get better. There's a women out there for you, bud.

 

[organdoner]

all the replys are funny/clever in a smart ass way which is cool. that's what family does. we are family right ? but seriously this really is a great question. it might be just a little gear left in the vial, amp, syringe but it is still wasted. we all would love to have that oil back for a few more jabs i'd bet.

 

[halfape211]

I think it has to do with the internal pressure of the syringe and how the walls of the plunger go concave instead of convex. I bet there are some designs out there that do go convex, but I bet getting flow through them is a nightmare.

Leave it to that 'halfwitted spongebob guy' to go all 'sciencey' on us. Some would say "scientific", but hey....I'm letting my redneck come out.