Do you think one of them is using gear pt. 2

71Avido said:
All items were ran for 3 days.

CIA started off at 15mg for one day then down to 5 for 2
T3 started at 100mcg and is now at 50mcg for 2 days
B12 is still at the 1000mcg from day 1

T3 does look to increase blood pressure
Everyone loves rat studies right!?
Cardiovascular response to triiodothyronine in... [Cardioscience. 1993] - PubMed - NCBI


I'm probably wrong like I usually am, someone may want to clarify.
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One option is to stop all of them and reintroduce them one by one and wait a few days or a week before introducing the next. When you get the sides you'll know which compound is doing it or which combination of compounds. Another option is maybe you're hypersensitive to PDE5 inhibitors so maybe try 5mg EOD than bump it up to 10mg EOD or 5mg ED. Work your way up until you hit the desired dosage or sides show.

B12 injections or sublingual? I would have to double check but i think B12 can cause certain things that you described. Also the study you posted uses doses of .2mg/kg BW. We are using much much smaller doses.
 
DreDay187 said:
One option is to stop all of them and reintroduce them one by one and wait a few days or a week before introducing the next. When you get the sides you'll know which compound is doing it or which combination of compounds. Another option is maybe you're hypersensitive to PDE5 inhibitors so maybe try 5mg EOD than bump it up to 10mg EOD or 5mg ED. Work your way up until you hit the desired dosage or sides show.

B12 injections or sublingual? I would have to double check but i think B12 can cause certain things that you described. Also the study you posted uses doses of .2mg/kg BW. We are using much much smaller doses.
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That's exactly the plan.
Everything has been stopped except b12, it's the sublinqual drops.

I'm aware of the larger doses in the study it was also conducted on hypertensive rats.
It seems most of the research done in regards to T3/hypertension happens to rats bred to be hypertensive.
The point was just to show that T3 does increase blood pressure.

This was from another journal:
a single intravenous dose of T3 elicited a significant hemodynamic improvement by reducing peripheral vascular resistance and increasing cardiac output
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http://rphr.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/59/1/31#SEC8

I think test flu is coming into play here too.
I got antsy and jumped the gun, went all in with everything right off the bat.
The next morning was an injection and everything went downhill from there.
 
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71Avido said:
That's exactly the plan.
Everything has been stopped except b12, it's the sublinqual drops.

I'm aware of the larger doses in the study it was also conducted on hypertensive rats.
It seems most of the research done in regards to T3/hypertension happens to rats bred to be hypertensive.
The point was just to show that T3 does increase blood pressure.

This was from another journal:

Effects of Thyroid Hormone on the Cardiovascular System -- Fazio et al. 59 (1): 31 -- Recent Progress in Hormone Research

I think test flu is coming into play here too.
I got antsy and jumped the gun, went all in with everything right off the bat.
The next morning was an injection and everything went downhill from there.
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. In addition, patients with acute or chronic cardiovascular disorders have abnormalities in peripheral thyroid hormone metabolism that may alter cardiac function
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^^^this line stuck out to me but I only glanced over that study quickly. Is it those with existing cardiac abnormalities that experience BP effects or all?

Also I believe the dose of B12 to be low if sublingual. 1000mcg is fine in injection but the rate of absorption in sublingual necessitates a larger dose to equal 1000mcg through injection. On the order of 5000mcg sublingual.
 
71Avido said:
I think I'm going to take a half day today.
This flu-like shit is bothering me.
No gym tonight :(
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I've been battling my own demons lately and wish I could take a half day today lol. Fortunately its off day from lifting so at least I can relax afterwards n
 
DreDay187 said:
I've been battling my own demons lately and wish I could take a half day today lol. Fortunately its off day from lifting so at least I can relax afterwards n
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Fight the good fight brother.
Hopefully we'll both walk out of this crap eventually.

Literally my entire hierarchy of supervisors is in Russia this week.
I'm wondering why the hell I even showed up today.
 
71Avido said:
Fight the good fight brother.
Hopefully we'll both walk out of this crap eventually.

Literally my entire hierarchy of supervisors is in Russia this week.
I'm wondering why the hell I even showed up today.
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I doubt I'll walk out of mine but I'm not a quitter either lol. I know you're isnt exactly the easiest situation either.

I'm also wondering the the hell you bothered showing up. I would've came down with something late Sunday evening if that were the case lol
 
Went to the worst restaurant in all of NY over the weekend. The GF and her sister had groupons to the Melting Pot, a fondue restaurant so the 3 of us and the sister's fiance Went there Saturday.
I've never been so scared or disgusted in my life. The first course was ch**se and no substitutes but other kinds of ch**se. So when the first course came I asked for a separate chair so I didn't have to sit in the booth and sat on my own away from all tables that had ch**se on them. Then the salads came and of course they put ch**se on mine after I asked for none to be put on any of my food. After getting a new salad the entrees came out and you have to cook it yourself at the table in the "melting pot". The groupons allowed us a choice of 3 meats each so I went with prime rib, andouille sausage and chicken potstickers. For a $40 entree I expected a decent sized portion, I was wrong. Out came barely enough food to feed my overweight cat! The. While cooking a piece of prime rib and sausage, my girl's sister out some ch**se shit in there so when I pulled my food out it had melted ch**se all over it. Almost threw up. Probably one of the worst restaurant experiences of my life, ch**se everywhere and small portions. The $240 in credit they had though allowed all of us multiple drinks so getting tipsy was the highlight of my evening followed by a nice fat bl*nt. :-). Do not go to the Melting Pot. You all have been warned!!!
 
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