Do you think one of them is using gear pt. 2

Did you go to your GP/family doc or an endo or ?? I like the idea of a script, and advice from a real Doc, but my insurance sucks, so it will cost me. If I can get a script it would probably be worth it, but having to do bloods every what ever doesn't really appeal, even though I'm sure it's for the best. Running Deca year round like our dear departed Texan certainly has a great deal of appeal as well. I'm on the fence, I want a script but I don't want to deal with the added cost of Doc visits, but I'm also reluctant to just self prescribe. I think I'll get through this PCT then do a hormone panel and go from there. What's the norm, 2 months after PCT?
I went to both and settled with my PCP as the endo knew even less than he did. I interviewed a few others and found that the majority of docs in my area haven't got a clue on male hormone replacement.

Red flag question: What do you think about aromatase inhibitors?

"For women?"

*BUZZZ*

"It's really not needed for physiological levels of testosterone"

*TRY AGAIN*

"Men don't create estrogen, so there's no need." (yes, seriously had a doc say this to me)

*WTF. END YOURSELF BEFORE YOU HURT SOMEONE*

"We can look into it if needed, but that would depend on blood tests once we dial in your levels."

*Ding ding ding!* Shame none of them said that. :p

The blood tests eventually dwindle down to every 6 months or even yearly so it's not a big deal to be honest. In fact, I'm about to take this high test/high tren blast to a low test/high tren cruise LOL as I have a test coming up. I'll come back down for a bit and stay on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) levels so my body can get some much needed rest, but it's really not THAT big of an inconvenience. Deca from a doctor is a VERY rare occurrence, and I was shocked to know that Austinite was getting that. I don't know if IMT offers that, but I do recall them talking about HGH - so it's possible.

Yeah, I'd at least get the panel done first so you have an idea if you even need to ponder these possibilities. I definitely wouldn't cruise if you have healthy nuts quite yet. Sure, we're getting older; but being forced to pin so you don't feel like you want to die 24/7 does suck. Yes, 2 months would be a good starting point for a blood test. If it comes back low, you can always wait a little longer and retest though.

Hope this helps. :)
 
Maybe another gin & tonic and frozen pot pie would help. It's good to eat two dinners before desert isn't it?
 
Maybe another gin & tonic and frozen pot pie would help. It's good to eat two dinners before desert isn't it?

Only if you have two stomachs? :laugh:


Who am I kidding, I used to eat a jumbo combination pizza from Godfather's all to myself followed by some late night Taco Bell tomfoolery. Christ I used to be able to put that food down and STILL burn those calories. Getting old sucks. :(
 
Thanks Half, I don't know if Aust's deca was script, I just remember saying he takes it year round. If I go that route, I would just self prescribe the deca. I asked my doc about low T once, I'm paraphrasing a bit, but as I recall, he bitch slapped me, told me I was watching too many low T commercials and said there was no way I could have low T with my current muscle mass. After that I skipped adding the hormone panel to my metabolic blood test. I really regret that because that was back before my first cycled, and before I decided to cycle, so no, I hate to admit it, but I do not have a pre panel for reference. I like my current doc, I've been with him for a few years now, but I'm not sure how he would feel about just writing a script for me to inject at home. I know conventional wisdom is to not tell them you've already done it tons of times.
 
Thanks Half, I don't know if Aust's deca was script, I just remember saying he takes it year round. If I go that route, I would just self prescribe the deca. I asked my doc about low T once, I'm paraphrasing a bit, but as I recall, he bitch slapped me, told me I was watching too many low T commercials and said there was no way I could have low T with my current muscle mass. After that I skipped adding the hormone panel to my metabolic blood test. I really regret that because that was back before my first cycled, and before I decided to cycle, so no, I hate to admit it, but I do not have a pre panel for reference. I like my current doc, I've been with him for a few years now, but I'm not sure how he would feel about just writing a script for me to inject at home. I know conventional wisdom is to not tell them you've already done it tons of times.
Yeah, he has a hot female endo that prescribes him just about whatever he wants as long as he can provide a good reason for it with scientific backing. Definitely a dream doc for sure. ;)

That's the whole 'roids stigma kicking in. So many docs are terrified of having a patient ask about it because it is a DEA monitored drug that actually SERVES a purpose unlike the shit they love doling out with impunity. Oddly, I have probably $3,000 dollars worth of prescription meds that I didn't want or need, that are a higher schedule drug and yet I was still battled about testosterone replacement therapy (TRT). The propaganda campaigns of the 1980's definitely worked, and have stuck.

Well, it took me a good decade at sub 200ng/dL levels to atrophy to the point where I could notice a pretty big difference. Just looking at someone can't tell you if they're hypogonadal or not, I think your doc was just trying to dodge that bullet haha. You most certainly don't want to say a word about cycling or muscles/fat/sports/diet/body building/gym/strength/hair/sex drive. I'd get a private panel first and if it comes back low, then you can lay it on him about how you just don't feel "right" or tired all the time and definitely want a hormone panel. The worst he can do is refer you. Hell, if that happens - I'd call IMT and see what they can do as you said you don't have the greatest insurance. ;)

I've been medically trained as both an EMT and paramedic II and my doc still had issues letting me pin at home. I had to prove to his staff and him that I knew what I was doing by self-injecting twice in his office (had to pay of course) in front of his nurses so he would feel okay about it. Docs love those back office visits that they can bill insurance for, even if they're not the one seeing you. :p
It only gets worse :(

What if I just have one freakishly large stomach, that's like two normal stomachs, right, so I should be good. Been trying to loose a little weight, but I'm not sure tonight is the night
Of course, but you have to go, "moooo!" when you eat. Yeah, but look at the bright side, it's only another 14 minutes until it's morning so you can start trying to lose weight again then! :D
 
And on that note, I just realized the wife has passed out on the couch. Now I get to carry her to the bedroom in an attempt to earn some brownie points for tomorrow morning. ;)

Nite Rumpster. :)
 
Mornin Ology
Got some heartwarming news for ya
Today, starting to set up for it now, we are hosting a small powerlifting fundraiser to raise money for a young man with a disability who's always had a desire to be a powerlifter and go to the Olympia.
Well we happen to have an Olympian lifter at our gym and all of the money we raise will go to paying for this kids expenses to go to the Olympia and MEET with all if his favorite pros and even go to dinner with them.
Kid has an awesome story. Regardless of the fact he can only use one half of his body to workout, he still lifts and does what he can to train that side along with his core. It's people like this that wake me up to realize I've got it easy.
Wish us luck guys, we are hoping for a great turnout and to lift some HEAVY ASS WEIGHT!
 
Morning USA!

Hi guys...

Frank, would you keep me informed as to how you are progressing with Austinite's vascularity stack...?

I'm keen to give it a go if you get results from it...

Cheers
BigBen :)
 
Morning USA!

Hi guys...

Frank, would you keep me informed as to how you are progressing with Austinite's vascularity stack...?

I'm keen to give it a go if you get results from it...

Cheers
BigBen :)

I'm not sure my results would be best to go off of because starting Monday I'll be bulking so I'll have a nice layer of fat covering the vascularity...but first workout with it I gotta better pump than with any other pre workout I've purchased.
 
So a little pissed about the fundraiser. Some people flaked on us.
Already went through the bench press now starting the dead lifts.
 
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