Gainjin260
I am banned!
35
6'2
230
In the process of cutting- losing about a kilo a week on keto
No previous cycle experience
Started TRT 5 weeks ago; took 6th pin Sunday. Sustanon 200mg/week (I know my T levels are probably too high on this dose. Hopefully pulling bloods this Saturday if schedule works out). I take Sus because I can get pharmaceutical whereas Cypionate I can't.
Diagnosed hypogonaldal 3 years ago at 279. At that time FSH was double what it should have been. Seems obvious primary.
Went on Clomid 25/d for 2.5 years to increase test and try to make sperm (had none then, have none now. I did when I was in my 20's). Clomid got me up to 450-500 range- great, right? Everybody would kill to have those levels, right? Well, the symptoms of low T got progressively worse to the point where I had Zero libido, no energy despite working out and eating pretty healthy, couldn't handle any amount of frustration etc.
I live in Japan. Japanese guys have way lower T than Caucasians, so all my levels- even at 270 were "fine" by most Japanese docs. I started TRT under the watch of a doctor in the States. He thinks my idea of injections + hcg @ 250 2x weeks is good (my dad is an oncologist, this guy is his Endo).
I found an enlightened Japanese endo who's willing to treat me. He even gave me pins today at our first meeting (highly***12289;highly controlled here) Both he and my urologyst in the States want me to try hcg monotherapy, at what I think are really high dowse. Stateside recommended 1500 2xwk and Japanese 3000 2xwk.
I know hcg monotherapy can work, but I feel great right now. Before TRT I was about to lose my shit at the drop of a hat. Now I am calm, happy and even can pay attention (ADD since 7 years old) much better/am actually patient.
Are there benefits to hcg monotherapy over TRT with hcg? I'm already infertile but have an awesome adopted daughter and I don't feel like I have to procreate.
I've read here that hcg won't work in primaries like me- what's the deal with Clomid raising my T? Would hcg then be likely to do the same?
If anyone can talk me into trying hcg monotherapy I'm all ears. Otherwise I'm not looking forward to stopping exogenous T because I feel like the real me again. My wife said I'm back to being the person she fell in love with. Plus since I've been meticulous about diet the weight is coming off and the strength going up. I love how I feel. It's completely changed my life. Should I give hcg a try? It'd only be 4 weeks off test followed by 3 weeks of Hcg, then we'd reevaluate.
If I do do that I've told the doc that I wouldn't come off T for another 6 weeks. That way I could treat this TRT as a tiny cycle. Question: at the end of 12 weeks should I try a pct/ restart before the hcg therapy?
Thanks for reading.
-Gaijin
6'2
230
In the process of cutting- losing about a kilo a week on keto
No previous cycle experience
Started TRT 5 weeks ago; took 6th pin Sunday. Sustanon 200mg/week (I know my T levels are probably too high on this dose. Hopefully pulling bloods this Saturday if schedule works out). I take Sus because I can get pharmaceutical whereas Cypionate I can't.
Diagnosed hypogonaldal 3 years ago at 279. At that time FSH was double what it should have been. Seems obvious primary.
Went on Clomid 25/d for 2.5 years to increase test and try to make sperm (had none then, have none now. I did when I was in my 20's). Clomid got me up to 450-500 range- great, right? Everybody would kill to have those levels, right? Well, the symptoms of low T got progressively worse to the point where I had Zero libido, no energy despite working out and eating pretty healthy, couldn't handle any amount of frustration etc.
I live in Japan. Japanese guys have way lower T than Caucasians, so all my levels- even at 270 were "fine" by most Japanese docs. I started TRT under the watch of a doctor in the States. He thinks my idea of injections + hcg @ 250 2x weeks is good (my dad is an oncologist, this guy is his Endo).
I found an enlightened Japanese endo who's willing to treat me. He even gave me pins today at our first meeting (highly***12289;highly controlled here) Both he and my urologyst in the States want me to try hcg monotherapy, at what I think are really high dowse. Stateside recommended 1500 2xwk and Japanese 3000 2xwk.
I know hcg monotherapy can work, but I feel great right now. Before TRT I was about to lose my shit at the drop of a hat. Now I am calm, happy and even can pay attention (ADD since 7 years old) much better/am actually patient.
Are there benefits to hcg monotherapy over TRT with hcg? I'm already infertile but have an awesome adopted daughter and I don't feel like I have to procreate.
I've read here that hcg won't work in primaries like me- what's the deal with Clomid raising my T? Would hcg then be likely to do the same?
If anyone can talk me into trying hcg monotherapy I'm all ears. Otherwise I'm not looking forward to stopping exogenous T because I feel like the real me again. My wife said I'm back to being the person she fell in love with. Plus since I've been meticulous about diet the weight is coming off and the strength going up. I love how I feel. It's completely changed my life. Should I give hcg a try? It'd only be 4 weeks off test followed by 3 weeks of Hcg, then we'd reevaluate.
If I do do that I've told the doc that I wouldn't come off T for another 6 weeks. That way I could treat this TRT as a tiny cycle. Question: at the end of 12 weeks should I try a pct/ restart before the hcg therapy?
Thanks for reading.
-Gaijin