Phatbastard
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K man lets cal a truce here cause I ain't buying in to to much Z's Rep says! He does have some good points but I'll leave it at that! It aint all fact!
does letro hinder gains ...yes or no??
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IncreasedMyT @ ULV
listen man ive seen that study long before it was posted in that thread, ive done the research on my own, mg/mg test is harder on your body than tren, with less results, the proof is in the pudding bro.
you can get better results with 500mg of tren than you cqn with a gram of test, and the gram of test is WAAAAY worse for you, starting with it affecting hemo and cholesterol more than tren does.
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Bottom line is this Estro helps gains! do you disagree? Excess Estro causes problems! Plain and simple
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IncreasedMyT @ ULV
no i dont think estro does shit but make you fat and act like a girl, we only need trace amounts.
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Then show it please! I would love to further my education! Brother I know You I know what you do! I respect that. Just sayin
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Dude your contro dicting your self
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Det don't do this please
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IncreasedMyT @ ULV
i dont get what your asking me to show.
your argument is
"dont take letro cause it ill crush your estrogen nd hinder your gains"
I say letro will not crush your estro, especially at the right dose, so its impossible for it o hinder gains in that way.
its not for me show that estrogen doesnt do anything for muscle growth, its for you to show that it does, you cant prove a negative, usually.
so i to say to you, show me where etrogen build muscle tissue?
your argument is
"dont take letro cause it ill crush your estrogen nd hinder your gains"
I say letro will not crush your estro, especially at the right dose, so its impossible for it o hinder gains in that way.
its not for me show that estrogen doesnt do anything for muscle growth, its for you to show that it does, you cant prove a negative, usually.
so i to say to you, show me where etrogen build muscle tissue?
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K listen I'm getting Agro so I'm gona go take it out on the Iron rather than U. Just sayin
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IncreasedMyT @ ULV
im not contradicting myself, and it really irritates me when people argue with me like this without a shred of an argument.
what is your argument actually? i thought, from reading this thread, it was that you should not take an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) (letro) cause it will hinder your gains, you have yet to provide andything that says that, your acting like a child and trying to force your opinion down my throat with backing it up with so much as an explaination, let alone anything science based.................................
what is your argument actually? i thought, from reading this thread, it was that you should not take an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) (letro) cause it will hinder your gains, you have yet to provide andything that says that, your acting like a child and trying to force your opinion down my throat with backing it up with so much as an explaination, let alone anything science based.................................
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we are freinds we dont have to agree!
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Funny how you retracted that last statement! I ain't tryin to shove shit down your throat brother! Its a fuckin fact ok!
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Acting like a child I like that one brother! Facts are Facts! prove me wrong!
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Just sayin if I was tryin to stuff somtin down your throat it would be my opinion
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Google that!
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another good point!
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Wow. This went well. Lol
Maybe it IS hard to crash estrogen, but at the dosage most use with Letro and the mild test 500mg weekly cycle, estrogen will be low enough to give you libido issues and joint pain severely(which I would call crashed). These are some of the processes I'm concerned with. I don't get too concerned with the articles anymore and rely mostly on my experience since I know it's not JUST on paper.
I'm one that doesn't need much Aromatase inhibitor (AI), but I also don't do more than 1500mg of total gear weekly anymore.
I can't say whether tren is less of a monster with minimal test, since I've only ran it with test at the same ratio. Maybe in March I'll experiment with that during my tren run...
Maybe it IS hard to crash estrogen, but at the dosage most use with Letro and the mild test 500mg weekly cycle, estrogen will be low enough to give you libido issues and joint pain severely(which I would call crashed). These are some of the processes I'm concerned with. I don't get too concerned with the articles anymore and rely mostly on my experience since I know it's not JUST on paper.
I'm one that doesn't need much Aromatase inhibitor (AI), but I also don't do more than 1500mg of total gear weekly anymore.
I can't say whether tren is less of a monster with minimal test, since I've only ran it with test at the same ratio. Maybe in March I'll experiment with that during my tren run...
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IncreasedMyT @ ULV
your right its common for people take too much letro, but at a 1/4 pill 2x a week it wont lower it that much.
some peopl could benefit from very small doses of it though cause it down regulates PGR.
You should DEF try the tren at 500 and your test 2-300, let us know what you think.
some peopl could benefit from very small doses of it though cause it down regulates PGR.
You should DEF try the tren at 500 and your test 2-300, let us know what you think.
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IncreasedMyT @ ULV
If estrogen was this powerful muscle builder all women would look like arnie and lou
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