Dreaded deca d*ck help to pinpoint problem.

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DragunX5

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Hi guys

I'm new to this forum but have done quite a few cycles of AAS.

This is my 5th cycle, I'm 27, 5ft 8 and weigh 87kg around 9% bodyfat. Never had any problems or sides with other cycles, until this one. I decided to try deca as always been wary of it, but the bulking benefits finally got the best of me so decided on.....

Test 600mg/wk 1-12
Deca 400mg/wk 1-12
Dianabol 30mg ED 1-6
Arimidex 0.5mg ED

And post cycle therapy (pct) clomid/nolva 4 weeks.

Cycle started great, good mass n strength gains. When I hit around the 4th week my d*ck went as limp as a wet fish, libido dropped to 0, really not good :(. I could get it up if I forced it, but never as hard as before and only maintain it a few mins.

I done research on the cycle and accepted that deca d*ck was a possibility and accepted that as I'm single, so no issue.....but then I met someone lol, possible wifey material and I guess you can imagine how depressing the situation for me is right now :(

So I dropped the deca completely at week 5, continued the test, I got to week 8 and no change in situation, so got hold of prami 0.5mg ED and I'm a week into that and it seems the little soft erections I got before prami have gotten worse? Is it possible to drive prolactin levels low that could affect this? I'm not even sure if I have elevated prolactin as no signs of gyno or lactating :S. I've tried Viagra and gets me hard but still, only maintain it for few mins.

So thought it could be dropping estrogen levels so low that could be causing it, are there any tell take signs of low I've dropped the adex all together, no signs of gyno etc.

Sorry to be so long winded guys, but don't want this to ruin my relationship. I've decided to stop my cycle as can't train properly, minds not in it right now. Now just waiting out my 2wks to start post cycle therapy (pct).

I know the only way to pinpoint the issue is doing bloodwork but can't do that until after post cycle therapy (pct) which is over a month away.

Any advice would be great guys, I know until after post cycle therapy (pct) I won't know if situation gets better but any input in the meanwhile would b great.
Thanks. :)
 
Bullseye is on the right track. The dbol aromatises and your adex could be underdosed or bunk. It doesn't take but a couple days to get estro down with a few mg of adex...
 
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you are taking prami and arimidex so anything anyone tells you is just a guess until you get bloodwork ,sorry.

i realize your 5-8 but your on a 5th cycle and weigh 87kg / 191 pounds , that kind of worries me . stick around here and hit the mod 3j up for diet help in the diet/nutrition forum.
 
Thanks for the responses guys.

I know the adex is genuine it's the same batch I used in my last cycle which worked a charm when nips got itchy. I'm maybe thinking 0.5mg ed might of been too much from the start and lowered estrogen too much?

:( yeah I know my weight now is bad, i came of last cycle and onto this one weighing 95kg but after this episode, mentally I shut off and felt low so stopped training and eating....my fault but I guess emotion is a strong thing. I was hoping to run the post cycle therapy (pct) and see if situation improves but I guess doin bloods now will pinpoint the issue.

Was just curious if low estrogen can cause erectile problems? Or could it be prami is not for me and caber is better?

Oh and a few other questions, I know deca can linger for as long as 6months but can estrogen and prolactin levels go back to normal over time with no treatment?
 
low estrogen can kill libido . stop adex for a week or 2 and see if it helps.

as long as there is no gyno and bloat isnt bad enough to cause high blood pressure not using a Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like adex is perfectly fine imo.
 
DragunX5 said:
Was just curious if low estrogen can cause erectile problems? Or could it be prami is not for me and caber is better?

Oh and a few other questions, I know deca can linger for as long as 6months but can estrogen and prolactin levels go back to normal over time with no treatment?
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Yes you can crash estro and libido.

Yes people respond differently to prami and caber.

Deca can linger long, but its the metabolites... I doubt they have much effect on your body after a month.

Your body tries to regain usual homeostasis after a cycle, but the length of time will vary... sometimes it will not happen!

After you get your bloods back plz post results and the community here can better help you. Without values this is all guessing.
 
Same cycle here, entering 4th week. No issues, in fact, I am experiencing the opposite and it is getting embarrassing sometimes. But I'm 42 and newly divorced so I'm kind of digging the "embarrassment". I started out on 0.25mg of Aridex but promptly bumped it up to 0.5mg the moment my nips started feeling more sensitive than usual.
 
Good to hear bro :) I did love this cycle as very noticeable gains in strength and size fast, but as most say, deca isn't for everyone....I'll def not be touching the stuff again!! And prob take Aromatase inhibitor (AI) only when notice sides, not from the off. With every cycle we live and learn I guess, but I would advise you get hold of some prami or caber....hope you'll never need it, but it's there if you do :). All the best with your cycle bud
 
DragunX5 said:
Good to hear bro :) I did love this cycle as very noticeable gains in strength and size fast, but as most say, deca isn't for everyone....I'll def not be touching the stuff again!! And prob take Aromatase inhibitor (AI) only when notice sides, not from the off. With every cycle we live and learn I guess, but I would advise you get hold of some prami or caber....hope you'll never need it, but it's there if you do :). All the best with your cycle bud
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Thanks. Have you tried supplementing the Dec with Tren?
 
caber or prami

Which one is better? I know no source checks, but seeing it's cycle support where can I get some in pill form? I may be running a deca cycle in a month or so. Thanks.
 
I have read that tren can shut you down just as hard as deca can. Again it's all down to how the compound takes to each individual person, after this I know that 19nor compounds don't work for me and I'll be steering clear of them, but one mans trash is another mans treasure as they say :D

Yeah got some caber coming in too, after bloods is done if its down to high prolactin levels I'll switch to caber. Prami makes me really sleepy but not nauseous, so i take it before bed....sleep really good! Shame it makes a good sleeping pill as opposed to what it's meant to do......but as the guys have said above... It's guessing at the mo, might not even be prolactin causing my issues.
 
Also why aren't you running test longer than deca? .50 ed adex is pretty much twice the dose of the normal dosage. Most people start at .25-.50 eod.
 
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tjkita said:
Sounds good I'll pick some up. Can someone PM me with a source for caber pills? Would greatly appreciate it!! Thanks all.
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you dont really need caber or prami with deca. You can control your estro through an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). If you want some on hand then manpowernutrition . com has great products
 
I'm guessing estro is way to low. I use .3mg adex a week on 1200mg test, this is not common, but you are using a lot of adex.

Prami sucks and I'll never use it. Caber is great and never experience any sides.

You have two major issues right now, 1. You already let your mind take control, you will struggle trying to get it up because of anxiety from worrying about it so much. 2. I doubt its deca dick, or elevated prolactin, after 4-5 weeks. I've seen guys run twice as much deca with no test and it still took almost 8 weeks to have issues, but it can happen faster.

But deca dick is from prolactin, prolactin usually won't be elevated unless estro is elevated.
 
Looking back on it I guess the adex was a lot, was para about the possible sides and maybe went ott, live n learn I guess. So if it's not prolactin would taking the prami have any negative effect of the body if it don't need it.

Well I can get it up now but not as hard and can't keep up long....think mentally it does impact a lot, so I'm hoping pct will ease my mind seeing my balls back to their proper size lol.

I ran the test 3 weeks longer than the deca but as mentally this issue got to me thought I should stop, get focused, get back to normal and start from scratch...with a lil more knowledge, thanks to all the guys for their input, this is very friendly forum :)
 
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