Dream Cycle Help

[Skarhead1]

Strider we are just getting FRUSTRATED because we are trying to give you advice and you are COMPLETELY negating it

 

[Skarhead1]

Why no tren? From the experiences I've had myself as well as all my user buddies, the sides are greatly overblown. In fact the sides were measured to be much less than other common drugs by one user buddy who is a physician. People just need to realize that much of these so called sides are dose dependent. If tren is killing your bp and making you sweat like crazy at night, then you should probably lower the dose. Once you get a correct dose for yourself, I've found tren to be unbeatable for strength and hardness, and in terms of side effects. Definitely recommend it for someone who has done a cycle or two already. Of all the types of Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) that our group has used, we've found tren to be the only one that allows a person to gain muscle and burn fat at the same time. Anavar as well to a smaller extent.

Tren is a great drug, no doubt. Strength is very high. but it can wreck havoc on lipid profile and harsh on the renal system.. Not to mention some of the sides are just hard to deal with for some people. I do not think it's a drug that people who just do steroids for recreational purposes should use. With proper training and diet he can get very similar results when it's all said and done. If he cant, then he didnt dial something in right.

I used to think using harsh compounds was the way to go..dbol. drol,tren, etc... but when someone said "you can gain perfectly normal off of any test and another mild anabolic (eq,deca,var) and if you cant, you're not dieting or training properly" and it's so true. I'm in this for the long haul, don't know about you, but unless Im in some PL meets, im staying away from the harsh drugs...

Also I know this guy wants weight loss, but DIET DIET DIET and he's got his goals.. he doesnt need to fuck with his thyroid using t3 or anything else. I think he needs to learn that it's DIET,SLEEP, TRAINING....THEN AAS... not stck a bunch of shit then expect it to do everything.

 

[bleachcola]

Wow, I must say my experience with most bodybuilding forums has been pretty respectful throughout. My fiance checked out this one site, mostly for women, called oxygenmag.net and they were all aggressive and catty and certain their way was right and everyone else was stupid. Made me laugh at them. Now I see that this board, out of the seven that I am a member of, is actually very similar. See on the other six boards people lent advice and criticism with the objective of helping to build me the best cycle that they could while being respectful towards me and each other. Here I see two guys with tons of posts each, yet none of the respect that you would think they would have towards others in their community. Honestly check out the exact same titled thread on any of these sites:

ibeforums
anabolicboard
hypemuscle
outlawmuscle
offshorebodybuilding
steroidsuperboard

No one else in any of these communities behaved this way.

I even tried to ignore some of your negativity.

Honestly bros, you should expect more of yourselves.

Thank you.

You see, the thing is, on large boards like this we get people on here everyday that ask for advice. When we give them the advice, they completely ignore it. They don't ask questions, they don't make modifications, they just keep repeating their original plan until someone agrees with it. The mods and members of this board are top notch for advice backed up with science and personal experience. It just gets real old real quick when people refuse to learn from our mistakes. They are dead set on doing whatever they had in mind originally and end up wasting lots of time, money, and health doing things the wrong way. Try to see our side of this and then grow up. This is a steroid board. If you want advice on steroids, we are more than willing to give it to you. If you just want someone to hold your hand and tell you everything is great and will be fine, by all means stay on other sites and have fun with your test/tren/eq/winny/igf/mgf/clen/t3 cycle.

* The opinions expressed by me don't necessarily reflect those of the site admin/mods.

 

[GymLift]

Gosh bleach, I guess you were right.

Strider7: Just curious. Did any of those other boards mention to you that Winstrol (winny) will not make you cut? Did any of them mention to you that fat loss is mostly about diet+cardio? I see that one of the boards recommended to you ED injections of test prop for 14 weeks. Fun. Enjoy the cycle.

 

[Strider7]

wow, I threw in the ED prop shots without thinking after several people suggested extending the test throughout the cycle. I forgot that I wasn't just running for 6 or 8 weeks anymore, but 14, a daunting diifference.

Thanks for the clue on diet mranak. I never knew that nutrition was an important part of bbing. I thought all you had to do was take the needles in your ass and then you magically turn into Ahhhnold until midnight, careful not to lose your glass slipper guys...

I guess you and bleachcola are right and everyone else is wrong then. We should all just start taking advice from you guys!!! Then everyone could walk around looking like Ronnie Coleman, without the gut, and we could get rid of most of the steroids on the market as obsolete lesser copies of tren.

Skarhead, well I didn't agree with everything you posted, I was primarily lashing back at mranak and bleachcola. Those two have way too many posts to their names to be behaving like this. It's sad that they have probably turned many new investigators away through their aggressive and rude interactional ways. I wonder how many well meaning people came online looking for a safe and supportive community to teach them the truth about steroids and bb'ing, met up with these two, and decided to just listen to their friend Bif who, at least, wasn't a stranger being an arrogant ass to them.

 

[DADAWG]

Gosh bleach, I guess you were right.

Strider7: Just curious. Did any of those other boards mention to you that Winstrol (winny) will not make you cut? Did any of them mention to you that fat loss is mostly about diet+cardio? I see that one of the boards recommended to you ED injections of test prop for 14 weeks. Fun. Enjoy the cycle.

those boards dont give a shit that hes 200 lbs and 14% bodyfat and really doesnt need that much gear lol . they dont care about his hair falling out , or his lipid profile . its not cool to give advice unless you totally agree with everything someone says and reccomend massive amounts of gear .
thats it we are officially uncool here at ology because we dont think he need all that gear .

 

[bleachcola]

wow, I threw in the ED prop shots without thinking after several people suggested extending the test throughout the cycle. I forgot that I wasn't just running for 6 or 8 weeks anymore, but 14, a daunting diifference.

Thanks for the clue on diet mranak. I never knew that nutrition was an important part of bbing. I thought all you had to do was take the needles in your ass and then you magically turn into Ahhhnold until midnight, careful not to lose your glass slipper guys...

I guess you and bleachcola are right and everyone else is wrong then. We should all just start taking advice from you guys!!! Then everyone could walk around looking like Ronnie Coleman, without the gut, and we could get rid of most of the steroids on the market as obsolete lesser copies of tren.

Skarhead, well I didn't agree with everything you posted, I was primarily lashing back at mranak and bleachcola. Those two have way too many posts to their names to be behaving like this. It's sad that they have probably turned many new investigators away through their aggressive and rude interactional ways. I wonder how many well meaning people came online looking for a safe and supportive community to teach them the truth about steroids and bb'ing, met up with these two, and decided to just listen to their friend Bif who, at least, wasn't a stranger being an arrogant ass to them.

You have a lot to learn about reality if you make health decisions based on whoever was the "nicest" to you. Maybe one day you will grow up and learn how things work in the real world. Nobody was trying to be a dick, we put out the god honest truth and from experience knew that you were going to completely disregard it. I truly hope that you will thicken your skin a little and stick around. You will always be better off getting advice from the crowd who says "less is more" when it comes to body altering pharmaceuticals. This really isn't something that you should take lightly. Using that many drugs just bc you have them on hand is completely irresponsible and part of the reason decent people in our community automatically get a bad rep from the public. So buck up, grow a pair, stick around, and learn how to use this stuff the proper way.

 

[Strider7]

Yup, that was exactly my accusation. A total lack of coolness. Wow you are so good at summarization. It took me, like, so many words to say that, cool.

My 14% is current if anyone had asked, I was at around ten, then I had several injuries and now I'm completely screwed with a cracked rib. The cycle was planned for a January start (after work), as it says in post #1.

Obviously, I'm basing my assessment of the validity of peoples suggestions on how nice they are to me. Bleachcola, maybe if you send me flowers and chocolates I will shut up and just stick to the cycle you recomended.

 

[Skarhead1]

lol so after all this strider... what is your cycle goign to look like (Honestly)

 

[Strider7]

Not finalized yet,

Dickerson65 at AB is saying I should use Aromasin (Exemestane) instead of Anastrozole (Arimidex) during post cycle therapy (pct), and he provides a link to an article supporting his viewpoint.

Also, I'm still researching the proper way to cycle PEG MGF AND IGF-1 LR3. PEG MGF is new so no one is certain what the best protocol for using them together is yet. I'm hoping to hear something from LakeMountD, the Game46, and others in regards to how to best utilize them during my post cycle therapy (pct) and perhaps for a month during or before my cycle.

I'm gonna wait to hear more from other boards before I finalize, but I' shortened the Winstrol (winny), lengthened the test and EQ, lengthened the entire cycle, and dropped the t3 all together. I only say this to point out that I did change things according to the suggestions I received from people. I may not change the entire cycle and opt for deca and masteron just because someone else says my choices suck, but I am open to advice, even taking it sometimes.

Thanks for asking Skarhead1. I'll post the final cycle so you can see it.

 

[Skarhead1]

aromasin is definately a better option

 

[bleachcola]

Yup, that was exactly my accusation. A total lack of coolness. Wow you are so good at summarization. It took me, like, so many words to say that, cool.

My 14% is current if anyone had asked, I was at around ten, then I had several injuries and now I'm completely screwed with a cracked rib. The cycle was planned for a January start (after work), as it says in post #1.

Obviously, I'm basing my assessment of the validity of peoples suggestions on how nice they are to me. Bleachcola, maybe if you send me flowers and chocolates I will shut up and just stick to the cycle you recomended.

Address please.

 

[GymLift]

Not finalized yet,

Dickerson65 at AB is saying I should use Aromasin (Exemestane) instead of Anastrozole (Arimidex) during PCT, and he provides a link to an article supporting his viewpoint.

In general, I actually don't agree with running Anastrozole during PCT, but I do find it acceptable (though usually not necessary) to run Exemestane during the beginning of PCT.

 

[Strider7]

So you guys concur with his advice then. I am trying to see if one of the two sources I am using can get me some Aromasin even though neither one of them has it on their list. Here's the link for the article he referred me to. It's Anthony Roberts, and I've read alot of his stuff, but some people argue about his credibility. This subject doesn't seem to be too controversial though.

http://www.isteroids.com/steroids/Ar...dex PCT.html

 

[SephBig]

Your girlfriend would be happy with you when you run Aromasin PCT

 

[Phil9999]

You could substitute anavar for the winstrol.