Epi-strong pct

[bombdiggity]

I am 26 years old, 185lbs been working out for around 3 years Just to get it out the way. This is my second cycle. First cycle was Turinabol -LV. This is how I am planning on dosing the product.

Weeks 1-2 - Cycle Support loaded with MV and Fish Oil
Week 3 - 15mg ramping up to 30mg Epistrong *
Week 4-6 - 30mg Epistrong*
Week 7- RUI Torem 120mg*
Week 8 - RUI Torem 90mg*
Week 9 - RUI Torem 60mg*
Week 10 - RUI Torem 30mg*

*Cycle Support, MV and Fish Oil taken throughout entire cycle.

My Questions:

1). Is PCT SERM from RUI sufficient?

2). I have Lean Xtreme so how do I add that to PCT? Do I start it the same time as TOREM?

3) Do I need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) for PCT or after PCT? I have looked at some posts that said I should take an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) after PCT.

4). What is a good testbooster for PCT and how would I dose it?

Thanks so much.

 

[BigKevKris]

OK.....the lean extreme is an anti-cortisol fat burner. Run as directed through post cycle therapy (pct). You DO NOT need to Frontload the Torem in post cycle therapy (pct). Run 30mgs ED for the 4 weeks. I would throw in some formastanzol as an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) in post cycle therapy (pct). As far as a test booster I personally run the PCT/Unleashed stack from Protein Factory. ALSO no need to RAMP UP the epi dosage. Just run 30mgs from the start...youll be fine trust me....good luck man,

 

[mich29]

darn got here late but this looks like sound advice.Yo Bomb any chance of seeing a log here for this?

 

[ed5742]

Yo mich ima start my superdrol/mestanolone log in 2 weeks. follow along

 

[MMA732]

I would recommend at least 40 mgs of Tore, 30 is a little on the low side especially when studies suggest that novla is 2 times the potency per mg which would suggest that 20mgs of novla equates to 40mgs of Tore.

 

[mich29]

Yo mich ima start my superdrol/mestanolone log in 2 weeks. follow along

I'm down bro can't wait

 

[nerdalert]

Bomb...this is what was recommended to me;
1-4 epi 1 cap 3 times a day
1-4 n2guard 7 caps a day
1-4 hcgenerate 5 caps ed spread out.
4-8 unleashed/post cycle/FORMA-STANOZOLOL ed as directed on the labels

add in gear and or need2slin during the cycle or post cycle therapy (pct) and also the ancient strength is a great add too my man..

 

[bombdiggity]

Thanks for the advice. I thought 60mg of torem was similar to 10mg of nolva. At least that is what everyone else is saying.

On a side note should I start Lean Extreme right after Epi or should I wait a week.

Also someone said that I should get an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) but how would I take this and if after post cycle therapy (pct) of Torem, wouldn't this create a rebound effect once I ended the AI.

 

[BigKevKris]

I would recommend at least 40 mgs of Tore, 30 is a little on the low side especially when studies suggest that novla is 2 times the potency per mg which would suggest that 20mgs of novla equates to 40mgs of Tore.

I agree...30mgs is a little low not that I tihnk about it. 40mgs should work nice.

 

[bombdiggity]

What about the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) in PCT? Is it necessary if I am doing at least a 4 week SERM tapering down dosage? Also if so how would I dose it and when during the cycle? Thanks

 

[BigKevKris]

What about the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) in PCT? Is it necessary if I am doing at least a 4 week SERM tapering down dosage? Also if so how would I dose it and when during the cycle? Thanks

The forma is your Aromatase inhibitor (AI). And like I said...YES start the lean extreme right after the Epi.

 

[mich29]

great stuff here looks like this cycle is going to be a good one with all this advice nuttin like customizing a cycle till its perfect

 

[bombdiggity]

I am more focused on why do I need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) if I am running Torem as PCT for 4 weeks? And if I need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) when would I take it, after Torem? Thanks

 

[mich29]

I am more focused on why do I need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) if I am running Torem as PCT for 4 weeks? And if I need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) when would I take it, after Torem? Thanks

you would need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) while on cycle if you want to help with keeping your gains lean and helping with gyno issues during the cycle or after your cycl with gyno issues.

 

[BigKevKris]

In all honesty..YOU DONT need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) while on a cycle of EPI. I personally wouldnt run one during the cycle. OFF cycle during PCT it will help you though. EPI will NOT cause gyno so forget that. HOWEVER..the formastanzol lowers SHBG which will actually HELP the epi and your test levels.

 

[bombdiggity]

OK So please answer me this... I am dosing epistane for 4 weeks at 30mg. For PCT I am dosing Torem for SERM for 4 weeks at 120, 90, 60, 30, HCGenerate (or other test booster) and also during PCT Lean Xtreme for 4 weeks for cortisol control.

That being said DO I HAVE TO HAVE AN Aromatase inhibitor (AI) FOR PCT? If so when? I want to prevent any rebound at all which I thought is what Torem would do since it would block estrogen from binding while my pct got me back to normal. Some people are suggesting running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) after SERM which seems werid because a SERM I thought gets you back to normal and an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) would reverse this by blocking out Estrogen and thus would cause a rebound effect once Aromatase inhibitor (AI) was ceased. Please explain. Thanks

 

[mich29]

OK So please answer me this... I am dosing epistane for 4 weeks at 30mg. For PCT I am dosing Torem for SERM for 4 weeks at 120, 90, 60, 30, HCGenerate (or other test booster) and also during PCT Lean Xtreme for 4 weeks for cortisol control.

That being said DO I HAVE TO HAVE AN Aromatase inhibitor (AI) FOR PCT? If so when? I want to prevent any rebound at all which I thought is what Torem would do since it would block estrogen from binding while my pct got me back to normal. Some people are suggesting running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) after SERM which seems werid because a SERM I thought gets you back to normal and an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) would reverse this by blocking out Estrogen and thus would cause a rebound effect once Aromatase inhibitor (AI) was ceased. Please explain. Thanks

no you don't have to run the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during pct or after it.you simply need the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) in case gyno issues appear or if you already know you are suspect to gyno issues

 

[BigKevKris]

I see NO reason why you would have ANY gyno issues. No Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is needed with this cycle. Run it straight up and run a strong post cycle therapy (pct) and you will fall in love with this compound. I LOVE EPI!

 

[BigKevKris]

BTW....run the torem at 60mgs for 4 weeks and youll be fine...again..no need to frontload...

 

[Kristofer68ss]

OK So please answer me this... I am dosing epistane for 4 weeks at 30mg. For post cycle therapy (pct) I am dosing Torem for SERM for 4 weeks at 120, 90, 60, 30, HCGenerate (or other test booster) and also during post cycle therapy (pct) Lean Xtreme for 4 weeks for cortisol control.

That being said DO I HAVE TO HAVE AN Aromatase inhibitor (AI) FOR post cycle therapy (pct)? If so when? I want to prevent any rebound at all which I thought is what Torem would do since it would block estrogen from binding while my post cycle therapy (pct) got me back to normal. Some people are suggesting running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) after SERM which seems werid because a SERM I thought gets you back to normal and an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) would reverse this by blocking out Estrogen and thus would cause a rebound effect once Aromatase inhibitor (AI) was ceased. Please explain. Thanks

For post cycle therapy (pct), I would run whats in bold for 4 weeks. Maybe drop the Torem to 30 the last week and start the Hcgenerate week 2 of on cycle.

Then after post cycle therapy (pct), I would run some bridge and forma for 4 weeks.