wanna explain this?
Eq only cycle.
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wanna explain this?
if you were to say "dnp, clen, t3, dbol, Winstrol (winny) and drol all together for 8 weeks straight" were a bad cycle. on a scale. and test-e only was a good cycle. on the other end of the same scale.
MAYBE then I would say "eq only is not a bad cycle."
but i would think about it first.
sculptone82
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Ok bro, having done an EQ only cycle I can tell you personally what I thought - I ran it alone at 600 for 14 weeks to help my joints put on more weight later.
- The first 5 weeks you need to be massively patient
- The next 9 weeks I thought it put on quality muscle
- Libido was down hard about week 8
- I felt I was losing a little hair (never had before at all) due to the unexplained pathway that many have mentioned EQ may convert to DHT or something similar that binds to the folicle (it came back later, but I still won't touch the stuff as fina/duta did nothing to stop it)
- I KEPT ON almost every pound of muscle
- My BP went up about 30 points sys/10 points
- I was vascular as all hell with 12% bf...much more than usual
- Bromocriptine helped with the sides at week 9+
- My joints were stronger than they have ever been and it worked wonders for keeping them healthy years afterward
Here is the problem that is mentioned only rarely: EQ/Deca each increase collagen production about 220-250% at moderate dosages. Test/androgens slow it to a crawl. If you stack the EQ/Deca with androgens collagen production is back to nearly nothing...unless you do not to to supraphys levels...so...
I would suggest EQ only for the first 2 weeks, then I would suggest tossing in some test at very low dose, say, 200/week for weeks 2-12, then some test prop for weeks 13-16 (stopping the EQ at 14)...IF you are looking to increase collagen production/perm joint health AND your BP is not out of control...and, of course, you are patient and do not want to tax your body more than most of us do.
This should allow you to hit the PCT right away and get great results from it. Use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) along the way, research it.
Good luck!
- The first 5 weeks you need to be massively patient
- The next 9 weeks I thought it put on quality muscle
- Libido was down hard about week 8
- I felt I was losing a little hair (never had before at all) due to the unexplained pathway that many have mentioned EQ may convert to DHT or something similar that binds to the folicle (it came back later, but I still won't touch the stuff as fina/duta did nothing to stop it)
- I KEPT ON almost every pound of muscle
- My BP went up about 30 points sys/10 points
- I was vascular as all hell with 12% bf...much more than usual
- Bromocriptine helped with the sides at week 9+
- My joints were stronger than they have ever been and it worked wonders for keeping them healthy years afterward
Here is the problem that is mentioned only rarely: EQ/Deca each increase collagen production about 220-250% at moderate dosages. Test/androgens slow it to a crawl. If you stack the EQ/Deca with androgens collagen production is back to nearly nothing...unless you do not to to supraphys levels...so...
I would suggest EQ only for the first 2 weeks, then I would suggest tossing in some test at very low dose, say, 200/week for weeks 2-12, then some test prop for weeks 13-16 (stopping the EQ at 14)...IF you are looking to increase collagen production/perm joint health AND your BP is not out of control...and, of course, you are patient and do not want to tax your body more than most of us do.
This should allow you to hit the PCT right away and get great results from it. Use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) along the way, research it.
Good luck!
I'm not bashing here but this is going to be your first cycle and you claim the reason is to reduce sides for a first cycle but sides vary from person to person and many are correlated to dose so how could a guy who never did a cycle know what to expect from sides? From a drug profile? Everyone on this board has given reasons why it's a bad idea and yet it's still being debated like a guy who has no experience with AAS has the logic and experience to debate with guys that have years of experience including shitty cycles like this one. If you are so worried about sides then AAS are not for you.
If you think you can go outside the norm with no experience and prove everyone wrong then you are wrong. I don't see why this thread made it this long when it's not hard to figure out it's a bad idea. I'm so tired of people trying to argue a point on something the have zero experience with and no bunk gear does not count as experience. Again I'm not bashing but why come here and ask if you just want to disagree with the answer you get from all the experienced members.
If you think you can go outside the norm with no experience and prove everyone wrong then you are wrong. I don't see why this thread made it this long when it's not hard to figure out it's a bad idea. I'm so tired of people trying to argue a point on something the have zero experience with and no bunk gear does not count as experience. Again I'm not bashing but why come here and ask if you just want to disagree with the answer you get from all the experienced members.
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