Eq only cycle.

[p91swat]

ehhh did not notice that typo, maybe that is why I got blasted in the red.


IF THAT IS NOT THE REASON CAN YOU GUYS PLEASE GET THE BRO OUT OF THE RED, I DON'T REMEMBER DIS-RESPECTING ANYBODY, JUST SPOKE THE TRUTH ABOUT SOME SOURCES AND MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. AS FOR YOU GOOD BRO'S OUT THERE PLEASE GET ME OUT OF THE RED. IT SEEMS AS WE HAVE SOURCE PIMPS HERE THAT ARE NOT TOO HAPPY WITH ME.

 

[RJ]

I want to maximize red blood increase count. ALso the sides are low and I dont have to worry about the fucking estrogen as much. As I already know that it will be a big problem. Over all it seems mild and easy to recover from, and it seems that it wont put you too high in the sky which will make it easier to recover mentally and physically in post cycle therapy (pct). I would be happy with 6-10 pounds of muscle, vascularity and a little fat loss in a course of 16 weeks.

How much are you planning on taking per week? If its less than 800mg.w you aren't gaining that. Not by itself.

And you do know that too high of an increase in RBC is not good for you either right?

Why are you not wanting to add test?

Also where were you when I was screaming that my gear was fake and I was trying to explain to them that it's been 4 weeks and I have not felt anything but low test symptoms. But everyone just said that oh it take 4 weeks kick, then it takes 5 weeks to kick in and then it take 6 weeks to kick in, lol.

i actually remember that and scotty said it takes 4-6 weeks to see results. which can be true like i said earlier. 4-5 i start seeing gains in size.

Either way, you're off track and should have some test in there IMO.

 

[p91swat]

How much are you planning on taking per week? If its less than 800mg.w you aren't gaining that. Not by itself.

And you do know that too high of an increase in RBC is not good for you either right?

Why are you not wanting to add test?




i actually remember that and scotty said it takes 4-6 weeks to see results. which can be true like i said earlier. 4-5 i start seeing gains in size.

Either way, you're off track and should have some test in there IMO.

I want to limit the sides for the first cycle,
But how about 125 test e a week and 400 eq a week. As for a first cycle I think anything will make a big difference.

 

[stiphy]

like usual, i didn't understand any of what Kane said, but i think he said don't be a dumbass and do an EQ only cycle because its a waste of time.

Why are you thinking this is a good idea? EQ is a weak ass steroid anyway. Why not maximize your first cycle?

x2

 

[RJ]

I want to limit the sides for the first cycle,
But how about 125 test e a week and 400 eq a week. As for a first cycle I think anything will make a big difference.

you're wasting your time. not sure why you don't wanna do a test only cycle. but oh well. good luck.

 

[rocko3927]

you my friend are the fucking idiot. can someone else bash this man instead of me please." I ran eq alone for 4 weeks and noticed nothing" that is some funny shit I wonder why you did not notice anything I mean anything.


As for the advice from *others* it seems as it will be a good idea to add at least testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dosage test. thank you for the help bro's

first of all i said your an idiot because you state one needs to wait 12 to 16 weeks to notice any effects of eq. secondly, i noticed change in my body after being on eq two to three weeks. i simply stated that running eq by itself sucks. i never said," i noticed nothing". so quit manipulating words to make your ridiculous claims sound worthy. if you have access to test i would take advantage of it. the only thing i should have stated was that eq alone sucked for me because my goals were size and strength. do you actually believe one could run a entire 16 week cycle of equipose at a substantial dose with proper diet and exercise and not notice any change until the 16th week? if you answer yes to that question..... than you my friend are a fuckin idiot.

 

[p91swat]

first of all i said your an idiot because you state one needs to wait 12 to 16 weeks to notice any effects of eq. secondly, i noticed change in my body after being on eq two to three weeks. i simply stated that running eq by itself sucks. i never said," i noticed nothing". so quit manipulating words to make your ridiculous claims sound worthy. if you have access to test i would take advantage of it. the only thing i should have stated was that eq alone sucked for me because my goals were size and strength. do you actually believe one could run a entire 16 week cycle of equipose at a substantial dose with proper diet and exercise and not notice any change until the 16th week? if you answer yes to that question..... than you my friend are a fuckin idiot.

never said it takes 12 to 16 weeks to feel anything. But it does take about 3 to 4 weeks to kick in, since it's not a strong androgen you wont be able to tell mentally if it's working or not in till maybe week 4 or so. you said it completely sucked because after 4 weeks you did not notice anything so you stopped it.,lol

 

[ezred]

never said it takes 12 to 16 weeks to feel anything. But it does take about 3 to 4 weeks to kick in, since it's not a strong androgen you wont be able to tell mentally if it's working or not in till maybe week 4 or so. you said it completely sucked because after 4 weeks you did not notice anything so you stopped it.,lol

i'm no expert on eq... but for the kinds of things that it seems to do, i would think being pretty lean to start would help you SEE the results sooner.

as for mass, i would expect that to start later and take longer, given the weak anabolic nature.

vascularity, muscle density, etc.... harder to see if you aren't already pretty lean. could be one reason so many people don't "see" results for so long.... they might not be able to tell so they have to rely on the strength and growth increases which start to flow more when higher blood concentration stabilizes.

again.... not an expert on anything at all so i dunno, just my thoughts. pretty common sense really when you think about it. i'm a common fool though so yeah.

 

[RJ]

i'm no expert on eq... but for the kinds of things that it seems to do, i would think being pretty lean to start would help you SEE the results sooner.

as for mass, i would expect that to start later and take longer, given the weak anabolic nature.

vascularity, muscle density, etc.... harder to see if you aren't already pretty lean. could be one reason so many people don't "see" results for so long.... they might not be able to tell so they have to rely on the strength and growth increases which start to flow more when higher blood concentration stabilizes.

again.... not an expert on anything at all so i dunno, just my thoughts. pretty common sense really when you think about it. i'm a common fool though so yeah.

once again, dead on logic my man. This all goes back to people expecting too much (not you p91swat, just generalizing).

Eq is nice when you are really lean for hardness and vascularity, and you only need about 400mg/w.

When it comes to mass, its not so much length of time on, as it is dose. Thats why i don't like it for mass. 400mg/w of Deca is the equivalent IMO to 800-1000mg/w of EQ. Actually, they don't equal at all, just that to see any good mass gains with EQ, you gotta be that high in dosing.

 

[rocko3927]

never said it takes 12 to 16 weeks to feel anything. But it does take about 3 to 4 weeks to kick in, since it's not a strong androgen you wont be able to tell mentally if it's working or not in till maybe week 4 or so. you said it completely sucked because after 4 weeks you did not notice anything so you stopped it.,lol

you seriously have some issues or can't read...or both. where did i say i stoped after 4 weeks. i wasn't pleased with the results this compound was producing. so somewhere around the fourth week i was able to purchase test cyp and at that point was running test with the eq. had much better results after that. having to lie to prove your point only makes you look like a tool.

 

[rocko3927]

you have to run it for at least 12 weeks or 16 weeks bro.

did you not say this

 

[p91swat]

gotcha

i spent 6 months in central america some years ago walked into a feed store for cattle chickens etc. and bought 500ml bottle of eq for $7 american dollars. ran it for 4-5 weeks alone and it sucked. don't waste your time. if you qualify for aas do some test first and foremost......

gotcha bro, misread it. I assumed that when you said that you ran it alone for 4 weeks then you stopped, you did not mention that you added cyp. But like I Said Iam not expecting too much gains a few solid pounds should be good enough with right training and diet. I want to keep my feet on the ground for the first cycle.But from the advice I got iam thinking if after 6 weeks I feel like crap then I would add testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dosage test. total 16 week cycle.

 

[ezred]

gotcha bro, misread it. I assumed that when you said that you ran it alone for 4 weeks then you stopped, you did not mention that you added cyp. But like I Said Iam not expecting too much gains a few solid pounds should be good enough with right training and diet. I want to keep my feet on the ground for the first cycle.But from the advice I got iam thinking if after 6 weeks I feel like crap then I would add testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dosage test. total 16 week cycle.

run the test the whole time you run the eq.... dont' wait till you feel like shit because your hormones are all out of whack .

 

[p91swat]

will do

run the test the whole time you run the eq.... dont' wait till you feel like shit because your hormones are all out of whack .

all right bro will do.

 

[B-BOI]

I love eq only cycles their just as good as oral only cycles

 

[KingCrane]

i'm no expert on eq... but for the kinds of things that it seems to do, i would think being pretty lean to start would help you SEE the results sooner.

as for mass, i would expect that to start later and take longer, given the weak anabolic nature.

vascularity, muscle density, etc.... harder to see if you aren't already pretty lean. could be one reason so many people don't "see" results for so long.... they might not be able to tell so they have to rely on the strength and growth increases which start to flow more when higher blood concentration stabilizes.

again.... not an expert on anything at all so i dunno, just my thoughts. pretty common sense really when you think about it. i'm a common fool though so yeah.

Good shit man..

 

[rocko3927]

gotcha bro, misread it. I assumed that when you said that you ran it alone for 4 weeks then you stopped, you did not mention that you added cyp. But like I Said Iam not expecting too much gains a few solid pounds should be good enough with right training and diet. I want to keep my feet on the ground for the first cycle.But from the advice I got iam thinking if after 6 weeks I feel like crap then I would add testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dosage test. total 16 week cycle.

no problem, imo i would do a test only cycle first. hang on to the eq for a second cycle. you are on track placing a high value on training and diet....hope it works out for you..

 

[robbocopp]

as you've been told

EQ "only" is a bad idea. Weak and will depress your natural testosterone.

EQ is good for vascularity - BUT - it will make you look more vascular NOT because you're building muscle BUT because it is raising your RBC count to higher levels (the more you do the higher it goes).

Higher RBC levels means your blood is getting THICKER causing the vascularity.

Higher RBC levels are "good" (especially if you are an endurance athlete) but, if you overdo it it poses a SIGNIFICANT risk of stroke and HBP(high blood pressure).

The "good" way to be vascular is to have LOW FAT not to thicken your blood.

So, go with tried and proven - test and maybe throw in a bit of deca (200mg/week) to keep your tendons healthy.

and don't forget your recovery and prostate management during the cycle.

 

[VicThruDomination]

first of all i said your an idiot because you state one needs to wait 12 to 16 weeks to notice any effects of eq. secondly, i noticed change in my body after being on eq two to three weeks. i simply stated that running eq by itself sucks. i never said," i noticed nothing". so quit manipulating words to make your ridiculous claims sound worthy. if you have access to test i would take advantage of it. the only thing i should have stated was that eq alone sucked for me because my goals were size and strength. do you actually believe one could run a entire 16 week cycle of equipose at a substantial dose with proper diet and exercise and not notice any change until the 16th week? if you answer yes to that question..... than you my friend are a fuckin idiot.

HAHAHAHA, geeeeet em!

you seriously have some issues or can't read...or both. where did i say i stoped after 4 weeks. i wasn't pleased with the results this compound was producing. so somewhere around the fourth week i was able to purchase test cyp and at that point was running test with the eq. had much better results after that. having to lie to prove your point only makes you look like a tool.

have to admit...this is pretty hilarious



anyway, I think with an awesome diet and with you training hard, a simple test only cycle will surprise you...

No expert either but I'm with ezred. Use common sense. Don't have any experience with EQ but def trying it with test e asap. I have read and read that EQ only is pretty damn pointless. Of course you are going to see some kind of results if you take any kind of steroid at a moderate dose but...pissing up a rope as far as I'm concerned my friend. I'm pretty pumped about the Test/EQ in the near future. (I will start a log and keep all posted.) Keep reading and learning. If you are completely stuck on Eq, Im with everyone else on this one...ADD TEST

 

[lartinos]

Wild thread here, lol. For a beginner EQ only isn't a bad option, it just isn't the best.