Estrogen problems? AI? Help!

[Canadian_Lifter]

Stats: 23, 5'9'', 196 lbs ~10-11% bf

So I need some help. I'm in week 4 of cycle
mast 100mg eod
test e 500mg/wk
bold 400mg/wk
and I am starting to get gyno in my right nipple (hurts if I press it hard.) I also seem to be getting night sweats every night - not that big of a deal though, however I've heard it can be related to high estrogen levels.

First off I want to say that I am prone to gyno - got it on my first cycle of test e/mast (10wks, started begining of last march.) Disappeared during pct (nolva, clomid.)

What's happened so far was the first two weeks I was taking adex .5mg eod (liquid form, recieved this stuff about 6 weeks ago) but I switched to taking letro .25mg ed (liquid form - got this stuff this past march.) Someone on this forum suggested I switch to letro.

I was talking to a 'juicer' friend of mine and he said that liquid AI's don't remain stable for a very long time. Could my gyno be due to the fact that I am using a liquid AI? I have some adex tablets (got at same time as letro - left over from last cycle) should I start using these? I would love any advice I can get!

Thanks in advance

 

[UserAt204]

Are you sure it's gyno? Liquid ai's work fine and last. I've been using the same vial of adex for months and I have multiple bloodwork results showing me how well it worked.

You should have stuck with adex. You ran that for a couple weeks(takes a few to become active), then switched to letro(takes a few days to become active) so during that time you likely had some rebound from the adex and now you are waiting for letro to work.

I've had gyno on every cycle. By gyno I mean a small pea sized lump that goes away off cycle. People tend to freak out over the possible start of gyno. IMO letro should only be used when other AI's don't work. You should have given adex more time or increased the dose. If adex doesn't work and you are really that estro sensitive then letro is fine but most people don't need it.

The issue I have is letro is known to crash estro very fast so if you start to get sore aching joints, loss of libido, anxiety you may have too low estro.

 

[teddykgb29]

liquid ai's are fine, I like using aromasin best during cycle. I would also have stuck with adex, give it time to work.

 

[Canadian_Lifter]

Would you all recommend I stick with letro, or run letro + adex for a period of time (until adex kicks in) and then drop letro?

 

[coltmc45]

I would just stick to letro and quit changing it up. You're on a very low dose. Just watch out for signs of low estro. Letro can knock your ass in the dirt. You're on low enough of a dose that I think you'll be good though.

 

[chain]

just letro

 

[Long_2010]

Some good posts here.

If you start feeling like you want to string yourself up the letro is working well haha

 

[Canadian_Lifter]

Some good posts here.

If you start feeling like you want to string yourself up the letro is working well haha

What do you mean by string myself up? Last time I used it I got some joint pains and I just noticed them again today (very small ones) but I suppose this is from the letro

 

[lifelearning]

Some good posts here.

If you start feeling like you want to string yourself up the letro is working well haha

True that. I personally enjoyed the hot flashes

 

[geeza1]

clomid/nolva

i did a course about 8months ago.4weeks ago by nipple started to hurt and a lump came underneath, i did suspect gyno but i finished the course 8months ago so had all tests and ultra sounds and it is gyno so they say.i brought some tamox which as you no is basically nolva..iv taken 1 at 20mg and i went really light headed.is that normal? iv read that its 1 of the side effects but i took it about 13-4hrs ago and still feel abit light headed..:S can any1 help? would you suggest i go onto clomid instead?cheers guys

 

[Rj*]

liquid ai's are fine, I like using aromasin best during cycle. I would also have stuck with adex, give it time to work.

this

letro is the strongest though, but you shouldnt be getting gyno on those doses , even if prone.

 

[Long_2010]

What do you mean by string myself up? Last time I used it I got some joint pains and I just noticed them again today (very small ones) but I suppose this is from the letro

im meaing you will feel like shit, really down in the dumps.

your joint pains will be from the letro for sure. i was in alot of pain myself with joint pains.

 

[Long_2010]

i did a course about 8months ago.4weeks ago by nipple started to hurt and a lump came underneath, i did suspect gyno but i finished the course 8months ago so had all tests and ultra sounds and it is gyno so they say.i brought some tamox which as you no is basically nolva..iv taken 1 at 20mg and i went really light headed.is that normal? iv read that its 1 of the side effects but i took it about 13-4hrs ago and still feel abit light headed..:S can any1 help? would you suggest i go onto clomid instead?cheers guys

clomids not for gyno its for your balls.

i've never exerienced been light headed from nolva before i had zero side effects from it, maybe it might be just yourself, everyone will react different.

you could give letro a try if your wanting to shift your gyno, its not 100% accurate, but it definitely worked for me and cleared about 80% of the lump i had... you need to way the sides up though, because as everyone in here has said the sides kick your head right in and you feel like a pysical wreck.