Ethanate and deca for first cycle

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Yngmucle88

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27 years old
175 muscle
Been working out for 4 years. Have used anavar before 80 mg of oral form
5'9
15 percent body fat

Looking to finally do my first gear cycle but really need some expert advice. I already have the two steroids listed just need to know the correct way to use them and for how long. I also have my pct set up for after my cycle so I'm thinking im good to go. Also should I change my diet up at all or keep eating lean meats and lots or protein? Because I see these people having some ridiculous cheat days like Taco Bell and shit. Is that normal? Any advice helps guys. Thanks.
 
Keeping it quick:

It's pretty simply. Only use the test for your first cycle, drop the deca. The reasons are right above your post so I'm not explaining.

And diet like you normally should. Meaning you increase cals as you need them. If you're gaining weight from week to week then no need to increase anything, if you're losing weight, or not gaining anything, then increase something. This is why many say you should already know how to train / diet before cycling or hire someone to help you. You end up with guys doing silly things. For example you struggle with a 135 lb squat prior to the cycle, but all of a sudden you're on cycle and trying to do a 500 lb squat during your first week using. Instead you should know how to slowly (ie progressively) increase your poundage as the body adapts / needs it or if the training program calls for it.

Same with food, you don't suddenly eat 7k cals a day when you're already gaining 2lbs a week on 3ks a day (just throwing out numbers). You'll simply put on too much fat (unless you want that). If cheat days are part of your schedule and fits in with your goals then do them. If you can't handle a 10K cheat off cycle then you likely don't need it on cycle. If you just want it, then whatever do it, but point is the cycle doesn't all of a sudden mean "things have to change dramatically because omg the magic is inside me."

Lastly if you simply search "first cycle" I'm sure you will find a million post with an outline, or if you simply read any of the stickies above your post you will see cycles laid out from week to week for you including PCT amounts from week to week.
 
You ran a cycle of just Anavar, and at 80mg/day? Why wouldn't you take test with that man... And 80mg is a high dose, especially for your first cycle. I would drop the Deca like kaname said, and just take test.
 
it seems like you don't know how to diet very well. Learn how to eat to grow or your cycle will be useless. I think you have some research to do on both nutrition, and steroids before you're ready.
 
Do some more research bro, or hire a trainer to help you out. If you don't know how to take them, you definitely not ready to do this on your own.
 
Yngmucle88 said:
Stats

27 years old
175 muscle
Been working out for 4 years. Have used anavar before 80 mg of oral form
5'9
15 percent body fat

Looking to finally do my first gear cycle but really need some expert advice. I already have the two steroids listed just need to know the correct way to use them and for how long. I also have my pct set up for after my cycle so I'm thinking im good to go. Also should I change my diet up at all or keep eating lean meats and lots or protein? Because I see these people having some ridiculous cheat days like Taco Bell and shit. Is that normal? Any advice helps guys. Thanks.
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I had this cycle as well as my first. I regret it I did gain 31lbs in around 10 weeks but the deca destroyed my hpta gave me gyno and a TON of water retention. I had pretty much no sides at 500mg test e wk intil I added in the deca.
 
Deca does't cause gyno? I got puffy nipps the second I started it so your saying it was the test? Guess its a myth then
 
Deca doesn't aromatize quite as bad as test, but it will add to the AI you'll need to keep e2 levels down.
The main reason for test only for first cycle. Once you know how much AI you need for test only, it's easier to guess accurately how much you'll need when you add deca to the mix.
 
GynoPuff said:
Deca does't cause gyno? I got puffy nipps the second I started it so your saying it was the test? Guess its a myth then
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puffy nips isn't gyno. actual female breast tissue is gyno. puffy nips can be a prolactin side effect, probably your nips getting ready for lactation but that goes away once prolactin is brought down. You can't get gyno without elevated e2.
 
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