Excited about first cycle. Details and a few last questions.

n0limits

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I've posted a few times trying to gather information and I think I'm ready!

Nov 23 - Feb 1
week 1-10: 600mg Test E
week 2-10: 6.25mg Aromasin ED. (I will wait until I start to notice bloating though, and then I'll up the dose from there if need be.)
No PCT required... I'm on TRT... so back to regular dose.

I was going back and forth between 12 weeks of 500mg, or 10 weeks of 600mg... Pretty sure the difference, if any, would be minimal. Right? xD

Diet is in check. I'm cutting to 10% bf. The goal is to get there by the beginning of November so I can slowly transition into eating more calories.
I work out 5-6 days a week right now with at least 1 rest day... on cycle I plan to work out 7 days a week, and will only rest if I feel I absolutely need to.

I would LIKE to gain 8-10 lbs (or more) of lean muscle, and keep my bf % as low as possible. I will be eating clean, and aiming for approx. 3,000 calories at the start. (220 p, 400g c, 80g fat). I'm gonna post this in the diet section for some advice if there is any.

Stats:
Right now: 23 yrs old, 165 lbs, 14% bf. (Will be 10% by the time I start.)
Goal: 175 lbs, 12% bf.


Basically for anyone who doesn't want to read a lot:

-Is 10 weeks @ 600mg test E/week adequate for sufficient lean gains with proper diet and training?
-Will there be a minimal difference between 600mg/week for 10 weeks vs. 500 mg/week for 12?

Thanks
 
- Test E can and will give you a bloat, if you are using it for cutting id go for test p, losing 2% of bf wouldnt really be a consern, if i where in ur place, i would bulk whole winter long and start cutting at march but thats me,
- IMO go for 500mg/w 500mg/test-e is enough for a first cycle. i dont think using 100mg/w more for 2 weeks less will make much of a diff annyway,

Best of luck bro
 
Thanks! And I don't necessarily care if I lose body fat. That would be IDEAL lol but it's not the goal. If I put on fat that's ok, and yeah bloat will occur, but it will diminish when I'm done. I'm more concerned with a recomp. So putting on as much lean mass (goal: 8-10 lbs) without gaining much fat (Goal: +2% bf).
 
i understand, you can lose BF%'s with proper diet and training but since you are 14% bf and bulking, just make sure you dont get your bf to high and keep it steady.
gaining 8-10lbs is do-able and not very hard i guess (as i gained 23 lbs on my 8wk prop cycle)
i would stick to 500mg test e/w and see how it goes, no need to rush or annything. you will get there finaly ;)

goodluck
 
Also an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on cycle will lower the bloat but will also lower the gains a little as far as i heard.. keep it at a low dose and uppen when needed just like u said
 
I would do 500 for 12 weeks...just out of curiosity, what is your regular testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose?
 
Could you give me a reason why? I have contemplated that, but I REALLY want to shred down by July, so I want to give myself as much time as possible to SLOWLY cut down after the cycle is done. Another 2 weeks won't make a huge difference, but that is my reasoning.

100mg Test E once per week.
 
IMO, you should bulk. . Cutting would be more rewarding if you had more mass, but to each his own.
 
I'm gonna try to lean bulk. My goal is to put on about 1.2-1.5 lbs a week for the 10 week period. I'm just wondering if Test as a compound would help me recomp... so add 8-10 lbs of muscle while keeping body fat below ~14% at the highest...
 
i understand, you can lose BF%'s with proper diet and training but since you are 14% bf and bulking, just make sure you dont get your bf to high and keep it steady.
gaining 8-10lbs is do-able and not very hard i guess (as i gained 23 lbs on my 8wk prop cycle)
i would stick to 500mg test e/w and see how it goes, no need to rush or annything. you will get there finaly ;)

goodluck

Is that you in avi? If so...do you lift?
 
- Test E can and will give you a bloat, if you are using it for cutting id go for test p, losing 2% of bf wouldnt really be a consern, if i where in ur place, i would bulk whole winter long and start cutting at march but thats me,
- IMO go for 500mg/w 500mg/test-e is enough for a first cycle. i dont think using 100mg/w more for 2 weeks less will make much of a diff annyway,

Best of luck bro

Ran test c , e and prop and I personally feel the ester has nothing to do with bloat. Test is test. My .02 cents.
 
Also an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on cycle will lower the bloat but will also lower the gains a little as far as i heard.. keep it at a low dose and uppen when needed just like u said

I personally don't like running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) unless I need it. That being said, I don't think controlling your e2 will hinder gains.
 
Could you give me a reason why? I have contemplated that, but I REALLY want to shred down by July.

Even if you keep 14% of bf and start cutting @ march. You will have plenty of time left (say -0.5kg of body fat a week) at this point. I couldnt agree more then shenky. Cause you will eventualy lose mass while cutting. When you use aas i would personaly stick to bulk.. or cut cycles
 
I will use it if I start to notice sides, but in the case that I do not, having E2 levels higher than average (within reason of course) would be worth keeping for the length of my cycle?
 
You NEED an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) from day 1. Its better to have your e2 managed and not have to deal with it once it gets out of control. Just cause you don't see symptoms doesn't meen its not elevated. Do some research and check out the problems associated with high e2. I can give you the answer...but read you must young jedi
 
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