Extended post cycle therapy (pct) and HCG

[J steel]

Extended PCT and HCG

Hey guys, long time since Ive been on here, great to see some familiar names still around.

So here is my question, I have recently come off an "extended" cycle -- just under a year straight with very little breaks. I know the dangers of this and at this point I am just trying to come off completely and make sure everything is in working order.

I used Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) about two or three weeks before the end of my cycle (and also about a month before that). My nuts came back around almost to full size, but then atrophied again (not as much) a couple days after the last Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) injection.

Then I just started Pheedno's extended post cycle therapy (pct) program this week. So far I feel great but cant help but notice that my nuts still are not at full size. Now here is the question, do I add in small amounts of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) now (even though I know that is suppressive), or do I give the clomid/nolva therapy more time to work? Just want to make sure I am not wasting it and that it is still helping my recovery even if my nuts are not at full size.

Any input or advice is appreciated!

 

[J steel]

I just read through some of the classics, particularly the one from Lawnsaver. I think what I need to do is get off the post cycle therapy (pct) and run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 500ius ED for a good 2 - 3 weeks, then wait about 5 days and restart PCT. Do you guys agree?

Only thing is I wish I did this during last weeks of my cycle. I am now already off, am I going to crash while running the HCG, should I run some low does of test prop while I am doing this? Thanks!!

 

[Slayer]

I wouldn't get off pct. IMO the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) isn't necessary at this point. That your nuts "aren't full sized" isn't a big deal. It's not like they have shrunk to raisins.

It is going to take time to recover. Continue what you are doing and stop touching your nuts.

 

[bmass]

Try HMG (human menopausal gonadotropine) its better then HCg it stimulates both LH and FSH production so your nuts get bigger and your spermproduction increases

 

[J steel]

I wouldn't get off pct. IMO the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) isn't necessary at this point. That your nuts "aren't full sized" isn't a big deal. It's not like they have shrunk to raisins.

It is going to take time to recover. Continue what you are doing and stop touching your nuts.

LMAO bro! thanks for the input!

 

[J steel]

im goin to continue running nolva and ldex and use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for about two weeks, then wait a bit and add in the clomid and continue running them for 6-8 weeks. that should do the trick

 

[soonbebig]

Try HMG (human menopausal gonadotropine) its better then HCg it stimulates both LH and FSH production so your nuts get bigger and your spermproduction increases

can u give me some more info or tell me where i can buy this is it illegal...cuz i might not be allowed to ask

thanks

 

[Vegas]

can u give me some more info or tell me where i can buy this is it illegal...cuz i might not be allowed to ask

Yes, it is a prescription drug and therefore for our purposes is "illegal".

 

[The_Chemist]

so in other words, asking where you could buy it is a no-no on this site....just trying to save you from getting a ban!

 

[A-10]

Try HMG (human menopausal gonadotropine) its better then HCg it stimulates both LH and FSH production so your nuts get bigger and your spermproduction increases

Can't say I've head much talk of HMG before. If its better than Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) why havent the masses made the switch? Expense? Availability?

 

[simpllyhuge]

im no expert but why not just keep running the post cycle therapy (pct) and add in 250 iu eod for like 2 weeks or go through one more hcg kit. it cant hurt you and no one on here can really narrow it down to right or wrong when it comes to something like this. every one has a different opinion

 

[DocJ]

Expense? Availability?

Both...more expensive and less available (probably not for long though )

 

[simpllyhuge]

wouldnt that solve the problem of people who are on Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) for life and afriad of not conceiveing.

 

[roccodart440]

If you look at any medical HPTA reversal they will run hcg right along with nolva and clomid. I would imagine that since allegedly hcg is suppressive it would be wise to discontiniue hcg at some point on and continiue woith nolva and or clomid.

I have not read or have any knowledge of hmg use but it sounds interesting. ALso, I have yet to see a source carry it.

 

[DocJ]

wouldnt that solve the problem of people who are on Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) for life and afriad of not conceiveing.

This is what I was wondering as well...I'm assuming it would make conception at least more probable.

 

[simpllyhuge]

doc cj, you scared me with that last comment. how improbable is it? i was under the impression as long as the testicles arnt shrunken it wouldnt be that hard. However i realize that just because nuts are full size doesnt mean that fsh is working.

 

[Vegas]

doc cj, you scared me with that last comment. how improbable is it? i was under the impression as long as the testicles arnt shrunken it wouldnt be that hard.

Well, just because your testicles haven't atrophied doesn't mean that they are fully functional. Of course it's a good sign but it's not an absolute measure. For the most part however we are talking about guys that either are on Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) for life or else have been chronically "cycling" without any worthwhile breaks to allow their bodies to recover. The average user will likely have no problem in this area as long as they are smart about things.

 

[simpllyhuge]

yeah but i plan on keeping my self on hrt for life.

 

[Vegas]

Have you discussed your options with your doctor?

 

[DocJ]

I would think people on HRT who were also taking clomid and hcg or hmg would be able to conceive maybe not as easily but still be able to????