Favorite PH for first Cycle?

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Redskins123

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Doing some serious research for a possible run in the future, learning a lot.

Wondering what everyones favorite PH is, especially for a first run? And other fav/necessities for first time run.



Any and all comments/opinions/etc are welcomed.


Thanks guys!
 
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None, get real shit...lol...they are a waste unless you stack with test, and still there are better orals out there.
 
GoPro said:
None, get real shit...lol...they are a waste unless you stack with test, and still there are better orals out there.
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This is a very uninformed post. Absolute bro science at its worst. Why are you in a ph thread if you have no interest? Go back to the anabolic threads and stop trolling here. He wants advice on a PH. Theres nothing wrong with getting your feet wet in the ph world.

OP, Disregard that post. Some PH's are as strong as their steroid brothers. Just like running oral steroids, you'll need a good pct/diet/training regiment to keep gains from a ph cycle. I think helladrol (halodrol clone) is a perfect way to get your feet wet. The sides are minimal compared to most ph, and it produces lean, dry gains. Use a low dose of clomid in pct to help recover because it WILL shut down. I'd also recommend a test booster like test infusion and daa, and forma stanzol to control raised estrogen, and some forged liver to keep the liver healthy
 
Jbranken said:
This is a very uninformed post. Absolute bro science at its worst. Why are you in a ph thread if you have no interest? Go back to the anabolic threads and stop trolling here. He wants advice on a PH. Theres nothing wrong with getting your feet wet in the ph world.

OP, Disregard that post. Some PH's are as strong as their steroid brothers. Just like running oral steroids, you'll need a good pct/diet/training regiment to keep gains from a ph cycle. I think helladrol (halodrol clone) is a perfect way to get your feet wet. The sides are minimal compared to most ph, and it produces lean, dry gains. Use a low dose of clomid in pct to help recover because it WILL shut down. I'd also recommend a test booster like test infusion and daa, and forma stanzol to control raised estrogen, and some forged liver to keep the liver healthy
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Thanks for your post!

Thats the thing, I know I'll need some pre cycle, during cycle, and post cycle. But don't necessarily know what route I should go for them.
 
D-bol, Winstrol (winny), Anavar (var), T-bol, and a bunch of others. Just go to the top of the page and look at steriod profiles!! It tell you most of the avaible type and if they are injectable or orals.
 
Jbranken said:
This is a very uninformed post. Absolute bro science at its worst. Why are you in a ph thread if you have no interest? Go back to the anabolic threads and stop trolling here. He wants advice on a PH. Theres nothing wrong with getting your feet wet in the ph world.

OP, Disregard that post. Some PH's are as strong as their steroid brothers. Just like running oral steroids, you'll need a good pct/diet/training regiment to keep gains from a ph cycle. I think helladrol (halodrol clone) is a perfect way to get your feet wet. The sides are minimal compared to most ph, and it produces lean, dry gains. Use a low dose of clomid in pct to help recover because it WILL shut down. I'd also recommend a test booster like test infusion and daa, and forma stanzol to control raised estrogen, and some forged liver to keep the liver healthy
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Bro bro, i know my shit on PH's, have ran cycles before i got into real shit. Why would you even take a PH that only converts to 3-20% test in the body? So if you take 100mgs of PH's in a tab, you are only getting maybe 20mgs of test. You have to take such a large does to get any amount of test worth while? And since you are taking such large doses to get that, then you are fucking ur liver. And ask anyone on here, Oral only cycles are a fucking waste, PH's are okay to run in conjunction with test but at lower doses just like with orals. Ph's are not a smart choice. And if you think giving him info on something that can easily fuck him up, then maybe you need to stop trolling you ass wipe. My post was not uniformed, just under informed. Go do ur research.
 
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ya ph's are mostly lots of side effects and crappy results. cycles that only last 4-6 weeks like ph ones dont really give your body time to grow. its not possible for anyones body to grow 10lbs of muscle in 4-6 weeks, think about it, so when people tell you "i gained 10-15lbs" its not muscle
 
tkasch30 said:
ya ph's are mostly lots of side effects and crappy results. cycles that only last 4-6 weeks like ph ones dont really give your body time to grow. its not possible for anyones body to grow 10lbs of muscle in 4-6 weeks, think about it, so when people tell you "i gained 10-15lbs" its not muscle
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Thatnk you, finally someone else who understand this shit too. And alot of that weight is water weight. If Ph's were so good, like d-bag up there with 8 posts said, then everyone would be taking them and they would be avaible medically. Yeah some people use then with other orals, and with test, but for the most part people stick to shit that is tried and proved.
 
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exactly! do 12-14 weeks 500mg test e or c. it costs about the same as ph cycle and produces real results with almost no side effects
 
GoPro said:
D-bol, Winstrol (winny), Anavar (var), T-bol, and a bunch of others. Just go to the top of the page and look at steriod profiles!! It tell you most of the avaible type and if they are injectable or orals.
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okay thanks.
tkasch30 said:
ya ph's are mostly lots of side effects and crappy results. cycles that only last 4-6 weeks like ph ones dont really give your body time to grow. its not possible for anyones body to grow 10lbs of muscle in 4-6 weeks, think about it, so when people tell you "i gained 10-15lbs" its not muscle
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Yeah I hear ya.
GoPro said:
Thatnk you, finally someone else who understand this shit too. And alot of that weight is water weight. If Ph's were so good, like d-bag up there with 8 posts said, then everyone would be taking them and they would be avaible medically. Yeah some people use then with other orals, and with test, but for the most part people stick to shit that is tried and proved.
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tkasch30 said:
exactly! do 12-14 weeks 500mg test e or c. it costs about the same as ph cycle and produces real results with almost no side effects
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Not sure if its allowed on this site or not to answer my question. But how would I get test-e. From what I've read it is a lot better, but running a PH or oral seems a lot easier to obtain.

SicVic said:
You can, Just ask. Well not openly.
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Seems easy lol
 
GoPro said:
Bro bro, i know my shit on PH's, have ran cycles before i got into real shit. Why would you even take a PH that only converts to 3-20% test in the body? So if you take 100mgs of PH's in a tab, you are only getting maybe 20mgs of test. You have to take such a large does to get any amount of test worth while? And since you are taking such large doses to get that, then you are fucking ur liver. And ask anyone on here, Oral only cycles are a fucking waste, PH's are okay to run in conjunction with test but at lower doses just like with orals. Ph's are not a smart choice. And if you think giving him info on something that can easily fuck him up, then maybe you need to stop trolling you ass wipe. My post was not uniformed, just under informed. Go do ur research.
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I said nothing durogitory toward you. Youre attacking ph's in a ph thread. You dont believe in ph's. Thanks for sharing. So why are you still here? Its trolling. I call it like it is. Yes anabolics are the better choice and always will be, but hes getting his feet wet with pro hormones. Many guys do. They actually do work to an extent.. What was that you said?? Oh yea, do your research. Your defense is calling me a douche and an ass wipe, then attacking me for having 8 posts. More posts than me doesnt give you more credibility. I'm not trolling, I'm helping. You're trolling bc your in ology's PH FORUM dogging on ph's. They have an anabolics section. Go there and we'll talk ph here, you can talk juice in there.
 
Yeah i did it with some milk thistle and liver aid. I even got my friend a bottle he told me that shit was the strongest thing he's taken. He hasn't done anything but otc gnc bs so this was a suprise for him lol.
 
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