Few Questions on Testosterone therapy

[DJ77]

At the Max you should only be drinking once a week ( in moderation), that is if your serious about taking your body/health to the next level... Drinking is counter productive.

 

[username1]

but they even say 1 drink a day is good for your heart and diabetics are allowed up to 2 a day. i mean i know it's not healthy, i guess since i've done so much and i've done harder stuff than drinking in my days so i guess it doesn't look bad to me but, i know i won't reach my potential. it took me about 10 years to cut down to 2 and i used to drink way more than 6 a day, i had a feeling where this topic would be headed if i brought it up, and i know that what ya'll would say is right but, i still said the lower number in the recent years.

i guess i'll just forget the testoserone thing for now then since it seems like it's pointless unless i quit drinking. it's strange though when i was younger i used to know heavy drinkers who used to lift and on roids and they got big from where they used to be, then again i guess they were still limiting their full potential because of alcohol, though one of them even went into the marines. but, i dont know i guess i'm probably in denial. is it even worth it for me to do the nutrition thing or even work out like i have been? i feel like quitting everything now, i thought i was starting to get on the right track but, i'm just stupid i guess.

it's really not that i dont want to quit it i mean it's not like i'm partying with people, it's just me by myself and it's not that i don't agree with yall, i guess i'm just too weak i've been always addicted to something in my life, rather pot, or beer, or whatever. maybe if i quit alcohol i could get addicted to testoserone but, i guess that could be a good or bad thing depending on how you look at it. what about all the other effects positive effects of testoserone like, erections, drive, motivation, fatigue, brain fog, etc. i still have all those things i mean if i get on testoserone will it not help in those areas either? maybe if i start seeing things from a better prespective with my body chemistry being corrected, it could help me quit? or the alcohol will fight those effects and make it pointless? i mean the alcohol is so little it's 2 drinks like over 3 hours since i mix it in about a gallon of water. i'm a workaholic also so it helps me work i guess i'm a functioning alcoholic but, i dont even taste anything or really feel anything, so i guess it's psychological at this point.

maybe this thread is going off-topic and i need to go to an AA forum or psychiatrist or something

i'm such a loser i don't know why i thought i could change, i know i never will just another dream of thinking i had found a way to be on the "other side".

 

[Hardtimes]

but they even say 1 drink a day is good for your heart and diabetics are allowed up to 2 a day. i mean i know it's not healthy, i guess since i've done so much and i've done harder stuff than drinking in my days so i guess it doesn't look bad to me but, i know i won't reach my potential. it took me about 10 years to cut down to 2 and i used to drink way more than 6 a day, i had a feeling where this topic would be headed if i brought it up, and i know that what ya'll would say is right but, i still said the lower number in the recent years.

i guess i'll just forget the testoserone thing for now then since it seems like it's pointless unless i quit drinking. it's strange though when i was younger i used to know heavy drinkers who used to lift and on roids and they got big from where they used to be, then again i guess they were still limiting their full potential because of alcohol, though one of them even went into the marines. but, i dont know i guess i'm probably in denial. is it even worth it for me to do the nutrition thing or even work out like i have been? i feel like quitting everything now, i thought i was starting to get on the right track but, i'm just stupid i guess.

Man i know what it is like to feel sorry for yourself, as i do everyday. I am 21 years old and my levels came back 188ng, you should not forget about pursing your hormone levels, unless your test are find. if you just want to get bigger, why take advantage of the system when people like me legitmently need it? I ignored pursuing a greater life, because i didnt have the energy to, its ironic. But it wasn't until i hit rock bottom and life hit me, that i am finally making the 1st step, i wasted years of my life fucking around and moaping around, and i stiill am, but now i have something to look forward to shortly, no one can make that first step for you. even though it was really my mom who made mine, i am nearly 22 years old, and i can not take care of my self. it is fucking pathetic, do you want to be like me? do you want to be pathetic? do you want to trade that shitty depressant feeling you get from alcohol for awareness that reviews for test depict? i would not fuck with psychiatrist if your test is low, they will put you on anti depressants, and then stimulates, which are fucking quack and make you depressed.

 

[username1]

Man i know what it is like to feel sorry for yourself, as i do everyday. I am 21 years old and my levels came back 188ng, you should not forget about pursing your hormone levels, unless your test are find. if you just want to get bigger, why take advantage of the system when people like me legitmently need it? I ignored pursuing a greater life, because i didnt have the energy to, its ironic. But it wasn't until i hit rock bottom and life hit me, that i am finally making the 1st step, i wasted years of my life fucking around and moaping around, and i stiill am, but now i have something to look forward to shortly, no one can make that first step for you. even though it was really my mom who made mine, i am nearly 22 years old, and i can not take care of my self. it is fucking pathetic, do you want to be like me? do you want to be pathetic? do you want to trade that shitty depressant feeling you get from alcohol for awareness that reviews for test depict? i would not fuck with psychiatrist if your test is low, they will put you on anti depressants, and then stimulates, which are fucking quack and make you depressed.

thanks for your reply, it's difficult sometimes when seems like nobody knows or understands your situation, especially on things that are easier said than done.

i just e-mailed chip to update him on my weakness with alcohol and what about all the other things test helps, maybe that could help me get my ass out of my head. it's mind games that are being played on me for sure. i think my mind does it on purpose too, like if i get morning errections if it's to pee, it will be up for a bit while i'm sleeping but, the second i touch it to fap (though this doesn't happen much, i probably haven't even fapped in a year or so, no desire) or whatever it shrinks small immediately, it's crazy. it's like my mind is playing cruel games with me.

and lol at asking me if i want to end up like that, pathetic and not being able to take care of myself like that, i'm still like that but, turning 31 next month and still living at home with mommy and daddy lol - i'm passed pathetic man

 

[Hardtimes]

thanks for your reply, it's difficult sometimes when seems like nobody knows or understands your situation, especially on things that are easier said than done.

i just e-mailed chip to update him on my weakness with alcohol and what about all the other things test helps, maybe that could help me get my ass out of my head. it's mind games that are being played on me for sure. i think my mind does it on purpose too, like if i get morning errections if it's to pee, it will be up for a bit while i'm sleeping but, the second i touch it to fap (though this doesn't happen much, i probably haven't even fapped in a year or so, no desire) or whatever it shrinks small immediately, it's crazy. it's like my mind is playing cruel games with me.

and lol at asking me if i want to end up like that, pathetic and not being able to take care of myself like that, i'm still like that but, turning 31 next month and still living at home with mommy and daddy lol - i'm passed pathetic man

I FEEL YA MAN, sometimes i think i have a vagina, i cannot even feel my penis connected to my body, it is like i have no mind penis connection!

 

[CHIP WADOWSKI]

I FEEL YA MAN, sometimes i think i have a vagina, i cannot even feel my penis connected to my body, it is like i have no mind penis connection![/QUOTE

I see that you have made a complete mockery of our Maximus Avatar. To me, there really is no humor in your actions. Call me sensitive, but that logo has served to be the cornerstone of years upon years of hard work and furthermore a symbol of lives changed and even saved. I guess if you would like to become a client, you could start by having a little respect for the "institution" and then i'd be very happy to help you get your life back on track. Maximus Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) is not a joke to anyone, especially all of the team members that have found a new sense of self because of what we do. Thank you.

 

[CHIP WADOWSKI]

thanks for your reply, it's difficult sometimes when seems like nobody knows or understands your situation, especially on things that are easier said than done.

I just e-mailed chip to update him on my weakness with alcohol and what about all the other things test helps, maybe that could help me get my ass out of my head. It's mind games that are being played on me for sure. I think my mind does it on purpose too, like if i get morning errections if it's to pee, it will be up for a bit while i'm sleeping but, the second i touch it to fap (though this doesn't happen much, i probably haven't even fapped in a year or so, no desire) or whatever it shrinks small immediately, it's crazy. It's like my mind is playing cruel games with me.

And lol at asking me if i want to end up like that, pathetic and not being able to take care of myself like that, i'm still like that but, turning 31 next month and still living at home with mommy and daddy lol - i'm passed pathetic man

username1.... I did get your extremely long email. Way tolong to be able to respond to. Please call me this week and we can answer your questions in a matter of minutes vs. Trying to break down an email that long. I did, however, respond, and then a message came back as "undeliverable". Please call me, as i'd like to help you. Thx.

 

[3J]

I FEEL YA MAN, sometimes i think i have a vagina, i cannot even feel my penis connected to my body, it is like i have no mind penis connection!

i am giving you 30min to change that avatar... or im going to ban you

you dont understand the dedication and hard work that is symbolized by the maximushrt logo...

 

[3J]

I FEEL YA MAN, sometimes i think i have a vagina, i cannot even feel my penis connected to my body, it is like i have no mind penis connection!

there we go.. that's much more relevant to your actions with maximus....

do you like your new avatar that i set up for you??

be smart man... dont go mutilating something that means alot to people here on this board...

first and final warning, enjoy ology...

and maybe if you apologize to chip and be nice to him he can help take care of all your needs.. he's very giving in that sense

 

[Motiv8ed]

but they even say 1 drink a day is good for your heart and diabetics are allowed up to 2 a day. i mean i know it's not healthy, i guess since i've done so much and i've done harder stuff than drinking in my days so i guess it doesn't look bad to me but, i know i won't reach my potential. it took me about 10 years to cut down to 2 and i used to drink way more than 6 a day, i had a feeling where this topic would be headed if i brought it up, and i know that what ya'll would say is right but, i still said the lower number in the recent years.

i guess i'll just forget the testoserone thing for now then since it seems like it's pointless unless i quit drinking. it's strange though when i was younger i used to know heavy drinkers who used to lift and on roids and they got big from where they used to be, then again i guess they were still limiting their full potential because of alcohol, though one of them even went into the marines. but, i dont know i guess i'm probably in denial. is it even worth it for me to do the nutrition thing or even work out like i have been? i feel like quitting everything now, i thought i was starting to get on the right track but, i'm just stupid i guess.
it's really not that i dont want to quit it i mean it's not like i'm partying with people, it's just me by myself and it's not that i don't agree with yall, i guess i'm just too weak i've been always addicted to something in my life, rather pot, or beer, or whatever. maybe if i quit alcohol i could get addicted to testoserone but, i guess that could be a good or bad thing depending on how you look at it. what about all the other effects positive effects of testoserone like, erections, drive, motivation, fatigue, brain fog, etc. i still have all those things i mean if i get on testoserone will it not help in those areas either? maybe if i start seeing things from a better prespective with my body chemistry being corrected, it could help me quit? or the alcohol will fight those effects and make it pointless? i mean the alcohol is so little it's 2 drinks like over 3 hours since i mix it in about a gallon of water. i'm a workaholic also so it helps me work i guess i'm a functioning alcoholic but, i dont even taste anything or really feel anything, so i guess it's psychological at this point.

maybe this thread is going off-topic and i need to go to an AA forum or psychiatrist or something

i'm such a loser i don't know why i thought i could change, i know i never will just another dream of thinking i had found a way to be on the "other side".

thanks for your reply, it's difficult sometimes when seems like nobody knows or understands your situation, especially on things that are easier said than done.

i just e-mailed chip to update him on my weakness with alcohol and what about all the other things test helps, maybe that could help me get my ass out of my head. it's mind games that are being played on me for sure. i think my mind does it on purpose too, like if i get morning errections if it's to pee, it will be up for a bit while i'm sleeping but, the second i touch it to fap (though this doesn't happen much, i probably haven't even fapped in a year or so, no desire) or whatever it shrinks small immediately, it's crazy. it's like my mind is playing cruel games with me.

and lol at asking me if i want to end up like that, pathetic and not being able to take care of myself like that, i'm still like that but, turning 31 next month and still living at home with mommy and daddy lol - i'm passed pathetic man

Listen man...get your fucking blood test done immediately. Do not wait one more day. Forget your self pity for the moment and get off your fucking ass and get it done tomorrow. If you have low T, get your labs and physical to Chip the second you have them. The answer to all your problems will come from doing this...and doing it right away.

The rest of my post below would have been sent to you in a PM, but I don't have that privilage on this site yet. However, I thought it was important enough for you to see immediately.

If you don't have low T, you definitely have issues with chemical dependency. All of your comments that I put in bold are classic examples of the thoughts of an alcoholic/addict. Every alcoholic/addict I've ever known (And I've known hundreds of them) had the same thoughts and feelings. You sit and stew in your misery over things that were caused by your drinking and drugging, and then try to cover it up with more booze. It's like trying to get rid of a headache by hitting yourself on the head with a hammer.

Does this sound familiar..."Poor me, poor me. I think I'll pour me a drink."?

If you think you have a drinking problem, you're right. Maybe you should try an AA meeting, as you suggested. I noticed in your post you mentioned that you felt like no one knows or understands what you're going through. I guarantee you if you go to an AA meeting everyone there will know what you're going through. And every one of them had the same though that "I'm the only one who knows". Some of them will have hung around AA long enough to figure out that a thought like that is ridiculous and that they've ALL been through the same thing.

The choice is yours bro. Sit there in your shit, or do something about it. Whether it's low T, alcohol, or both, your choice is the same. DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT AND DO IT RIGHT FUCKING NOW! NOT NEXT WEEK, IMMEDIATELY. AS SOON AS YOU READ THIS DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. ANYTHING! A thousand mile journey begins with one step. But you have to take that first step.

 

[Hardtimes]

I FEEL YA MAN, sometimes i think i have a vagina, i cannot even feel my penis connected to my body, it is like i have no mind penis connection![/QUOTE

I see that you have made a complete mockery of our Maximus Avatar. To me, there really is no humor in your actions. Call me sensitive, but that logo has served to be the cornerstone of years upon years of hard work and furthermore a symbol of lives changed and even saved. I guess if you would like to become a client, you could start by having a little respect for the "institution" and then i'd be very happy to help you get your life back on track. Maximus Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) is not a joke to anyone, especially all of the team members that have found a new sense of self because of what we do. Thank you.

sorry man..it wasn't meant to be perceived as a mockery, just as something for me to look forward too, a little humor to keep me going till things get started..it is the doctors that i see as clowns..I apologize again man it was not meant to be like that at all! I feel fucking stupid

 

[Hardtimes]

there we go.. that's much more relevant to your actions with maximus....

do you like your new avatar that i set up for you??

be smart man... dont go mutilating something that means alot to people here on this board...

first and final warning, enjoy ology...

and maybe if you apologize to chip and be nice to him he can help take care of all your needs.. he's very giving in that sense

Like i said, there is no disrespect to Maximus Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT), Why would I be spending my lifeless energy trying to join Maximus if i had not respected their organization? Like I said, I apologize to Maximus Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT), and untimely Chip.

 

[Hardtimes]

there we go.. that's much more relevant to your actions with maximus....

do you like your new avatar that i set up for you??

be smart man... dont go mutilating something that means alot to people here on this board...

first and final warning, enjoy ology...

and maybe if you apologize to chip and be nice to him he can help take care of all your needs.. he's very giving in that sense

man once i think about it, hoping i can speak freely, it hurts to be label stupid, even on an online forum. I know that makes me sound like a gargantuan pussy, but when your called stupid your entire life, in real life, and then people online many miles away can see through that your text, therefore i must really be stupid..I guess this is what i mean when i feel like a chick sometimes, lol. I am just here to get some help with my life, and my intuition tells me to fuck doctors, and side by Chip, there is not disrespect as I am counting on this man to be my savior. I would call the man to apologize, except I lack the confidence.

 

[CHIP WADOWSKI]

man once i think about it, hoping i can speak freely, it hurts to be label stupid, even on an online forum. I know that makes me sound like a gargantuan pussy, but when your called stupid your entire life, in real life, and then people online many miles away can see through that your text, therefore i must really be stupid..i guess this is what i mean when i feel like a chick sometimes, lol. I am just here to get some help with my life, and my intuition tells me to fuck doctors, and side by chip, there is not disrespect as i am counting on this man to be my savior. I would call the man to apologize, except i lack the confidence.

dont worry about calling to apologize. We are all human and all do stupid things and when you are ready, i'll be here to help you. I try not to get to sensitive about a lot of things, but my business and the blood, sweat, and tears that have went into building it and helping people, is something that i hold very special to my heart.

Lets move forward. I hold no grudges, bro. We'll get you on track.

 

[3J]

Consider it a friendly hazing. No one has hard feelings towards you. We all make mistakes

 

[3J]

man once i think about it, hoping i can speak freely, it hurts to be label stupid, even on an online forum. I know that makes me sound like a gargantuan pussy, but when your called stupid your entire life, in real life, and then people online many miles away can see through that your text, therefore i must really be stupid..I guess this is what i mean when i feel like a chick sometimes, lol. I am just here to get some help with my life, and my intuition tells me to fuck doctors, and side by Chip, there is not disrespect as I am counting on this man to be my savior. I would call the man to apologize, except I lack the confidence.

lol.. you can remove that avatar now my man... its not "locked in" or anything

 

[Dog of War]

I FEEL YA MAN, sometimes i think i have a vagina, i cannot even feel my penis connected to my body, it is like i have no mind penis connection![/QUOTE

I see that you have made a complete mockery of our Maximus Avatar. To me, there really is no humor in your actions. Call me sensitive, but that logo has served to be the cornerstone of years upon years of hard work and furthermore a symbol of lives changed and even saved. I guess if you would like to become a client, you could start by having a little respect for the "institution" and then i'd be very happy to help you get your life back on track. Maximus Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) is not a joke to anyone, especially all of the team members that have found a new sense of self because of what we do. Thank you.

Hardtimes, I haven't been with Chip as long as a lot of the other guys have but I still feel a strong sense of loyalty to him and MAXIMUS. I was with lets just say not the best testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) doctor and couldnt wait to be able to sport the MAXIMUS avatar and did as soon as I was a client but removed it sortly afterwards.. Hardtimes I post and ask questions in some of the other sections on this board and did not want any of my dumb questions or actions to reflect on Chip due to my avatar, you see it seems that there are a lot of people out there that are trying to discredit and smear testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and I have been on another forum and was p.med by someone trying to discredit Chip personally and after speaking with Chip and did some looking of my own it seems that person had other personal intrests in keeping me from joining MAXIMUS needless to say I'm here and plan to be here for a while. If you have done your research you would understand why Chip and the MAXIMUS family are so protective of one another. Everyone has made young not very well thought out mistakes but publicly degrading yourself is not really the answer most people judge more on actions then on words.. We all know how shitty things are with low T and how frustrating the system can be but get yourself together and get a game plan and stick to it do whatever it takes to get in with Chip and I asure you that your life will greatly change for the better...

 

[username1]

yea alcohol will suppress test levels... your food/liquid intake is probably horrible.. why drink so much??

you cants do the alcohol and get where you wanna go..

if you wanna become a client hit me up at 3jdiet@gmail.com

we will start you on a basic package.. and slowly make lifestyle changes... getting your shit together doesnt happen overnight... but taking the first step happens in an instance

Sent you an e-mail after speaking with Chip yesterday.

 

[3J]

did you get a response??

 

[username1]

did you get a response??

I have not