I heard recently that taking things like caber to prevent the prolactin effects of DECA or tren can help fight the erectyle dysfunction and loss of libido that may and probably will come along with the use of these compounds. I'm planning on using tren at the end of this year. I may prolong the cycle even further if I don't feel I'm ready at that time because it's something I want to be totally and completely prepared for, I don't want anything sneaking up and ruining my cycle. Any help, thoughts and opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you guys.
fighting ED and loss of libido on tren and deca with things like caber?
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I'm 5'9 205lbs and just over 14% bf bulking right now so the bf is high but I'm gonna bring it down to 10 before I run the tren
Thank you, much appreciated my man. I don't have access to prami or it would have been my first choice but I think the caber would make for a decent substitute. Me and my woman are in our 20's so the libido thing is a big concern lol
soldier74
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Shit, just wait til she is in her 40's!! Lol It only gets better with age my friend
I've done research on caber and it should work just fine. You should make a cycle log when you start. Btw, how many cycles you have under your belt? 20's? 20 what? We want to guide you on the right direction friend. Tren is definantly a compound that deserves much respect, as I am learning now, and it's something you don't want to use on your first few cycles.
Shit, just wait til she is in her 40's!! Lol It only gets better with age my friend
Yeah I've heard their sexual prime is around 40-45 hahah. Here's the part a lot of people don't agree with, I started AAS use at 19 it wasn't the wisest choice and I know that now but it was my decision and honestly I don't regret anything. I've been careful, I've taken things slow, I've learned a lot and had a bunch of fun. I'm just being honest when I say I won't stop cycling. I'm currently 22 but will be over 23 by the time I start tren if I don't decide to wait longer. I've ran DECA once and loved it besides the sides, I wasn't prepared I've learned that to be the most valuable part of the whole thing. No matter what your using, knowledge is key. I think tren will be an amazing experience but I want to get all I can out of it and actually enjoy the ride.
Estradiol first.
If you can keep estradiol in range on cycle, there's a very good possibility that you won't need a dopamine agonist like prami or caber. Bromocriptine is also a viable alternative if prami makes you sick (IF you need it), but caber is unattainable.
Noted, thank you man.
soldier74
avi changes as i do
Good point. U beat me to it...lol.Estradiol first.
If you can keep estradiol in range on cycle, there's a very good possibility that you won't need a dopamine agonist like prami or caber. Bromocriptine is also a viable alternative if prami makes you sick (IF you need it), but caber is unattainable.
SJC: it only takes a wee little bit of prami. I don't even notice it honestly. I have heard it can be rough if you take too much tho. I started at.1mg and worked up to .3.....that's it. I stay horny and wifey gets her workouts in bed.
juced_porkchop
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use an AI during cycle and have prami on hand, also cia for boners just incase
I always run my AI. My supplier makes a pretty strong generic Viagra so I'll probably grab some of those. Thank you for the input guys, love this place.
SJC
I am banned!
.1ml a day gave me the worst sleep of my life and made me feel sick all the time. After 3 days of that I couldn't take it any more. It was worse than any Tren side effect I've ever had.
JimiThing
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Prami is a love hate compound. I freaking LOVE it. Its a shame for those that cant tolerate it. It hits the d3 receptor more than caber which makes it more effective in the sexual sides/performance dept ( quite a lot of fun!). Normally starting low and slowly increasing dose, combined with taking it at night before bed with food in stomach takes care of sides in the majority but there are those such as you that just do NOT respond to it well. Those people have to use caber, which will work for prl.
soldier74
avi changes as i do
Good point! ....I didn't even think of that...
Tren is in a league of its own, not to be taken lightly.
I understand the potential sides and what can happen, the health dangers etc. like I said the problems with the DECA cycle was just a matter of being uneducated, I put a little too much trust in a friend. I ran an AI with it and nothing else. As I said my tren cycle isn't going to be for a while I will be ready when I start I can guarantee that. I obviously don't have a complete understanding of tren yet but I know enough now to know how serious it is. I won't be one of those guys that goes into it blind and unprepared.
soldier74
avi changes as i do
Good idea. Cause there is too many example threads all over here of what NOT TO DO when it comes to running a tren blast/cycle.
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