First Anavar/Test E cycle

[SDee]

Decided to pop my natty cherry, and got my Ana Anavar (var) and about to start my cycle.. getting everything prepared but I still need some assistance in some issues

Planning to run Test E for 8 Weeks and might extend them to 10.. and Ana Anavar (var) for 6 weeks and might go up to 8 as well depending on how long my Anavar (var) lasts

I know a lot would suggest increasing the Test E dose to 400 atleast, but many reasons make me want to go with the 250, the first one and the main one is that am a little bit concerned about steroids use and am new to it so am kinda nervous about how my body would react to injectable test as I am prone to MPB and not keen on using Finasteride, and I have a puberity gyno and I don't want to end up with bi.tch tits..

So I thought 250 would be enough to keep me from feeling like shit due to shutdown and help in having some extra gains specially as my muscles are virgin.. if everything went well especially with the hair loss and the gyno I might increase the dose in the next cycles

Done my blood work, everything seems in good ranges.. total test is high while free test is average, might be the DHT.. but everything else looks fine especially the Estrogen and the Prolactin

I have 200 caps of 20mg Ana Anavar (var)
And am getting 8 Test E amps, 250mg each
Not sure about the PCT, but would a Clomid/Nolva be sufficient?





What I think about now:

Weeks 1-8: Test E @ 250
Weeks 1-6: Ana Anavar (var) @ 60
Weeks 8-10: Clomid@100 and Nolva@20
Weeks 10-12: Clomid@50



The supplements am gonna use are:
Orange Triad Multi .. Creatine Mono .. Flaxseed Oil .. Fish Oil .. Saw Palmetto .. Protein Powder


Diet would be@1000KCal surplus@40-40-20 split



Been lifting for 3 years, age 26




any criticism/suggestions would be really benefitical

 

[Sardis23]

What are your stats such as weight, height, bf%? First cycle should be test only unless you are female. With test e/c, you should run a minimum of 10 weeks with 12 a better length. 250mg is a small dose and won't raise your levels much above your natural test production. I also see you have made no mention of an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and your pct plan is flawed. I suggest sticking around here and researching a good bit more before you start, you do not seem ready to cycle at all.

 

[oprahwinstrol]

Why is the pct flawed Sardis, mg p/day breakdown?

 

[Sardis23]

Well those doses are not the standard doses. Usually it is clomid 100/50/50/50 and nolva 40/40/20/20. But what I was talking about was that he has himself starting pct the same week he finishes his test. PCT should be started 2 weeks after the last pin since he is using a longer ester.

 

[SDee]

Stats: 185lb / 5'11' / BF 13%

Might probably extend the cycle length to 10 weeks, that's one of the things I wanted to hear more opinions about
I will be using an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) in the PCT but I only mentioned the SERMs, most probably would use PES Erase or Driven Sport Triazole, alongside DAA.. With ZMA and Vitamin D as well

I wanted to do an Anavar only cycle, but everything I read suggested going with a Test base, So I decided to run Test at minimum, it is around 3x my natty Test production so I think I would be fine with that, I won't be pinning myself as well so I can only pin once a week that's another thing I didn't mention

 

[Austinite]

How old are you?

 

[SDee]

How old are you?

26

 

[Sardis23]

Neither Erase or Triazole are AI's if you did not know. I would just start pinning yourself, it is very easy and much more convenient. Pinning once weekly would be more typical of a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose than an actual cycle. I would definitely suggest running atleast 10 weeks, the big changes start to happen around 6 weeks so why would you want to shut yourself down for minimal gains?

 

[MustangDX]

250mgs/week of Test E is basically a "TRT" dose. You'd be shutting down your own natural testosterone production and replacing it with the same amount but synthetic. THAT'S USELESS! A long ester like Test E takes around 4-6 weeks to actually kick in and you want to stop at 8 weeks. Again, that's useless and your just wasting your time and money. The proper first AAS cycle is Test E only @500mgs/week split into 2 doses(Mon/Thurs), so you should drop the Anavar. It's best to only run 1 new compound at a time so you'll learn how your body reacts to it. You will start your PCT, 2 weeks after your last pin for 4 weeks. Clomid: 50/50/50/50 & Nolva 40/40/20/20. You also need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like Aromasin or Arimidex while on cycle to help prevent sides.

 

[SDee]

what would the maximum Test dosage in one pinning of Test E ?

 

[MustangDX]

what would the maximum Test dosage in one pinning of Test E ?

You would pin 250mgs, 2xWeek(Mon/Thurs) for 12 weeks.

 

[SDee]

You would pin 250mgs, 2xWeek(Mon/Thurs) for 12 weeks.

I don't really think I can pin twice weekly, so looking to keep the same frequency but increase the dosage

 

[MustangDX]

I don't really think I can pin twice weekly, so looking to keep the same frequency but increase the dosage

Pinning once a week will give you unstable blood levels, that's why everyone pins twice a week for a Test E cycle like yours.

 

[Austinite]

If you're only running 250 mg of testosterone and you're using hCG, you can inject testosterone once per week. hCG will help level off stability.

 

[MustangDX]

If you're only running 250 mg of testosterone and you're using hCG, you can inject testosterone once per week. hCG will help level off stability.

Wouldn't it be a waste to do 250mgs/week? If this guy can't pin Test E twice weekly, I don't think he'll want to pin Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) as well.

 

[Austinite]

Wouldn't it be a waste to do 250mgs/week? If this guy can't pin Test E twice weekly, I don't think he'll want to pin Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) as well.

Yeah, this entire thread is kind of a mess. I just threw that out there for those who run high doses of secondary compounds and just wanted maintenance doses of testosterone.

No offense, SDee, but I don't think you're ready to cycle.

 

[MustangDX]

Yeah, this entire thread is kind of a mess. I just threw that out there for those who run high doses of secondary compounds and just wanted maintenance doses of testosterone.

No offense, SDee, but I don't think you're ready to cycle.

^^agreed

You got a lot more homework to do my friend. AAS is not something you just jump into without the proper knowledge of diet, training and all the compounds that you plan to use on cycle.