First cycle advice

[zmuggler]

hey guys,new guy alert!
I'm about to start my first cycle and i would like your advice.
I'm starting a 10 week cycle of
20mg Dianabol ed for 10 weeks
400mg Sustanon
500mg Deca

Im 23 years old,15% bf ,203 lbs ,6 8''
my questions are
How many calories should i consume?During bulking i usually go to 3300-3400 calories,should i go more?
Has anyone here cycled Dbol like that?It has come to my attention by older bbuilders that cycling like that keeps water weight to a minimum and is easier on the liver.
Also i don't know how to proceed with PCT.That's the most important thing.My trainer told me i'd be using Nolva and proviron,but that's all,and since i'm new i would like some more info on how to proceed with PCT.

Thanks in advance!

 

[Metalhead]

Stick with test only 500mg weekly, 2 pins a week for 12 weeks. Keep it simple for your first. Optional if you want to add the dbol, but i would only do it as a kickstart for the first 4 weeks. Youll probably need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Pct youll need clomid 50/50/50/50, nolva 40/40/20/20. i would also suggest getting your diet in check before starting otherwise youre doing no good for yourself. talk to 3j on here

 

[Vino 1]

hey guys,new guy alert!
I'm about to start my first cycle and i would like your advice.
I'm starting a 10 week cycle of
20mg Dianabol ed for 10 weeks
400mg Sustanon
500mg Deca

Im 23 years old,15% bf ,203 lbs ,6 8''
my questions are
How many calories should i consume?During bulking i usually go to 3300-3400 calories,should i go more?
Has anyone here cycled Dbol like that?It has come to my attention by older bbuilders that cycling like that keeps water weight to a minimum and is easier on the liver.
Also i don't know how to proceed with PCT.That's the most important thing.My trainer told me i'd be using Nolva and proviron,but that's all,and since i'm new i would like some more info on how to proceed with PCT.

Thanks in advance!

Not a good first cycle bro. Research test e only first cycles. Read the sticky on PCTs and read some more. Dbol that low of dose is pointless in my opinion. Should be a kick start 40-60mg day for 4 weeks. Deca and sus are not real good options on a first cycle. Test e is recommended

 

[zmuggler]

ok,i thing i got the hang for post cycle therapy (pct) now,but why is deca not good for first cycle?the thing is,I plan for this to be my ONLY cycle,and i want the gains to be maximum...other than that,sustanon is just a mix of different tests,and the dosage is kept pretty small...i worry about the diet,
i can programm my own diet keeping calories and all,but how much more should i eat when using steroids?that's the part i don't know

 

[Vino 1]

ok,i thing i got the hang for pct now,but why is deca not good for first cycle?the thing is,I plan for this to be my ONLY cycle,and i want the gains to be maximum...other than that,sustanon is just a mix of different tests,and the dosage is kept pretty small...i worry about the diet,
i can programm my own diet keeping calories and all,but how much more should i eat when using steroids?that's the part i don't know

Ok well, Test E is suggested because u only have to pin twice a week, one compound means u know exactly what your body is reacting to. Two compounds... Which one is causing the reaction? On your first cycle you won't know. First cycle should be simple and u can stack on your next cycle once you figure out how u respond to test alone. But it's on you. Just be safe.... Oh and just one cycle huh??? Hahahajaaa I doubt it. You'll be hooked. Hope this helps

 

[a7x411]

Wow no no no no no no
Def no
How about something more like test e or c 12 weeks 500mg/week dex .5mgEOD PCT 14-21 days after last pin clomid 50/50/25/25 nolvadex 20/20/10/10
Yeah I like that idea better.
Do your homework
Oh and your welcome for making you a first cycle

 

[Sharmacus]

Terrible first cycle. Someone hasn't been doing their research. To the above guy that's a weak post cycle therapy (pct). Should be more along the lines of Clomid 50/50/50/50 and Nolvadex 40/40/20/20. Especially if Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is not being used.

 

[zmuggler]

Terrible first cycle. Someone hasn't been doing their research. To the above guy that's a weak post cycle therapy (pct). Should be more along the lines of Clomid 50/50/50/50 and Nolvadex 40/40/20/20. Especially if Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is not being used.

the thing is i have been researching for at least 3 months before starting. And everywhere i see the same thing,like test e or test e with dbol.
I wanted to try that,but i have a mentor who is 23 years into bodybuilding and he is definetely sure i should go this way.i don't know i'm pretty confused but i too (being scared and all) think i should go the simple way.

 

[zmuggler]

Ok well, Test E is suggested because u only have to pin twice a week, one compound means u know exactly what your body is reacting to. Two compounds... Which one is causing the reaction? On your first cycle you won't know. First cycle should be simple and u can stack on your next cycle once you figure out how u respond to test alone. But it's on you. Just be safe.... Oh and just one cycle huh??? Hahahajaaa I doubt it. You'll be hooked. Hope this helps

Thanks for the advice bro,I'm very skeptical before trying anything...will i get hooked?I don't know,but sure as hell don't like the idea of piercing my self 4 times a week so i think that's a good deterrence.

 

[Sharmacus]

the thing is i have been researching for at least 3 months before starting. And everywhere i see the same thing,like test e or test e with dbol.
I wanted to try that,but i have a mentor who is 23 years into bodybuilding and he is definetely sure i should go this way.i don't know i'm pretty confused but i too (being scared and all) think i should go the simple way.

Don't stack testosterone with an oral as your first cycle bro. You need to know how your body responds to testosterone. If something goes wrong on a test and dbol cycle, how will you know which one is affecting you? You won't is the answer. Don't always trust some people on steroids, not all of them do the right thing and sometimes give risky advice. Do what you want bro, but if you are going to cycle then I would recommend testosterone only first.