FIRST CYCLE - and its BIG for max gains INPUT IS GREATLY APPRECIATED !

[Big Jayy]

Hi bros, This is my first ever AAS or GH cycle EVER. After much research, and knowing my body and its deficiency in something (just cant put my finger on it). I have decided that a big paced out cycle would be ideal. The strategy is to up my doses slowly and then when I am nearing the finish line, down my dosage, like the pyramid strategy to mimimize sides and find my range.

I really need some input, on dosage, PCT*, and any other alerts.


First..
Stats
Height - 6'2
Weight - 180
BF - 13-14%
MMA Fighter been training for 3 years, been lifting decently for 2.
Diet is okay , but its now officially super clean, and training will be upped obviously.

The Cycle..

HGH - 5-6 iu, 5on/2off

2 months later I introduce

Dbol - 500 mg / week
Tren Ace - 500 mg / week
Test Prop - 700 mg / week
Igf1 - ? -- input needed

and then HGH for another 2 months

PCT..

I kind of know what and how to pct this cycle but I rather have the seniors guide me through a super pct , so please provide input for the best pct (more than safe).


Also can anyone please help me PERFECT this cycle, I am doing this cycle for sure so input is greatly appreciated. Provide in detail.

I am planning on researching this for a bit longer before I start but this will be my first cycle. I will be keeping you guys posted with results and how everything is going.

Super Experienced Comment ONLY.

Thanks bros.

 

[3J]

age??

goal weight class??

 

[3J]

off the bat this is a horrible cycle for a first cycle.. tren? dbol?

your in wayyy over your head.. and at 6'2 180 your not ready...

and im guessing your under age too??

 

[Big Jayy]

How is it bad ?
What would you change around?
Im 6'2, 180 .. in good shape very athletic

Goal is to be ripped and shredded and big.

 

[3J]

what is your current age??

How is it bad ?
What would you change around?
Im 6'2, 180 .. in good shape very athletic

Goal is to be ripped and shredded and big.

 

[SamSport]

I would not recommend this to anyone for a first cycle... if you decide to do it anyway, look up caber and prami (needed when running tren). arimidex or aromasin for estrogen... search a little bit you'll find what dosage you need

 

[bigben66]

How is it bad ?
What would you change around?
Im 6'2, 180 .. in good shape very athletic

Goal is to be ripped and shredded and big.

You said "After much research".... I sincerely doubt this!
Tren on your first cycle.... I'd like to see what you researched to come up with that!?!

 

[shenky]

Hey OP, I'm new to AAS, too, and can TOTALLY sympathize with your desires to big, shredded and crazy in the gym fast! But jumping into anything this fast is asking for trouble. It's like wanting to try acid for the first time and taking 20 hits.

 

[Big Jayy]

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[Sardis23]

Look at the stickys at the top of the forum. Should be one 3J wrote that is first cycle for beginners or something to that effect. First cycle should be test only.

 

[Big Jayy]

I think I will do this cycle but cut the dosages super super low to see how my body reacts and then do it again with larger dosages a 2 years later

 

[bigben66]

I think I will do this cycle but cut the dosages super super low to see how my body reacts and then do it again with larger dosages a 2 years later

So, you ask for advice, but then don't take any notice....
Go for it!

 

[Sardis23]

People like you really give cycling a bad name. They go in without any research and run cycles that they have absolutely no idea how they will act to each drug. The pyramid scheme of dosing is not going to give you stable levels. This just seems awful. You come on here asking for advice and when people give it to you, you neglect what they say and continue on your way. Why even come on here if you won't even listen to advice from experienced people? Rant over

 

[Spunkey71]

Others can speak more to this than I can but at 6'2" and 180lbs, it is pretty obvious that your diet is not anywhere near where it needs to be. At your height and weight you still have a lot more room for natural growth which can be accomplished through diet and time in the gym. If you do not have your diet right and are not taking in enough quality calories from the right foods then you will not get much from your cycle and once you come off will lose most if not all of your gains.

You also are talking about compounds that are only to be used by experienced cyclers, never on a first or second cycle. Your first cycle should be Test only and that is only if everything else is in check. There are many stickies that you need to read and re-read before you should ever consider doing a cycle and possible screwing up your body for the rest of your life. You also need to have a blood panel done before you start your cycle and another half way through your cycle so you at least know what is going on in your body.

Start Here

Then Read Some More Here

 

[Big Jayy]

I respect what you guys have to say. I will still do way more research before I start, and I will train harder and eat cleaner and do even more research.

 

[Spunkey71]

I respect what you guys have to say. I will still do more research before I start.

I knew a guy that liked to do heroine, doesn't mean it is safe to do!

 

[enzo321]

Nigga what logic are you using that makes you think taking a cow steroid is the safest bet for a first cycle?

Any idiot can realize you should always take the compound with the most research.

 

[Big Jayy]

First cycle will prob be test suspension and Winstrol (winny). I am just wanting to do the big one so bad but Ill leave it for later years when Im older and wiser.

 

[Spunkey71]

First cycle will prob be test suspension and Winstrol (winny). I am just wanting to do the big one so bad but Ill leave it for later years when Im older and wiser.

Idiot is going to do whatever he wants to do regardless of what anyone else says!

 

[Big Jayy]

test suspension and Winstrol (winny) is bad spunkey71? I heard its a good first cycle, First time hearing its bad.