FIRST CYCLE - and its BIG for max gains INPUT IS GREATLY APPRECIATED !

your 22 years old.. what are you thinking using gear??

no one here is going to give you a green light to cycle...

good luck to you
 
Honestly it takes a long... long time to really learn about steroids. Knowing how steroids work and what to take is way different than having hands on experience. Trust me. I know a shit load about steroids and all the profiles of steroids and what to take for pct and all of that good stuff and I have studied for years and years about it for a few hours every night. The reason I say this is because ive only done one real steroid cycle and I am in the begenings of my second one now and there is just to much stuff that you have to actually have real life experience with to know the answers to. Lol I have been having problems with some of the most simplistic stuff I mean I have figured it out. But a lot of the knowledge I have learned in the past pointed me in the right direction as to how to figure it out. Basically what im saying is slowly build your way up. Start with just testosterone in a cycle. And then try Testosterone and a oral like d-bol, than try testosterone dbol and deca, than try something like testosterone masteron and winstrol, and then go for the big guns like tren. I mean you could do tren for a second or third cycle but you want to be experienced with everything before you start with it. I would use deca before you use tren so you can get use to controlling progesterone.
 
he'll come back in a few months and start a thread "help please! libido out of wack! no energy! depressed! i fucked up big time because i didn't listen to the 10000 people who told me not to do gear!!"
 
dude listen to the vets they know what they are talking about. don't be stubborn and do what you want, do whats correct. do more research and then more. then when u think u know enough ask the million dollar question on this forum to make sure that everything checks out. never jump into a cycle without knowing sides, post cycle therapy (pct), dosage, etc.
 
Alright guys I get it. Ill wait it out for a year or two and train and diet .. Ill come back when I start a just test cycle.
 
It's tough love OP
They are being generous considering what you said in your opening post...
There's a reason everyone is telling you NO...
Read the STICKIES over and over again
 
test suspension and Winstrol (winny) is bad spunkey71? I heard its a good first cycle, First time hearing its bad.

Wow. So you like the idea of injecting every 4 hours and having your joints feel like someone took a cheese grater to them? Oh, and I can't wait to see the PIP thread from that combo, woooof!

Do yourself a favor man, go to the diet section and learn as much as you can. Spend another 2-3 years fine-tuning your diet and workout regimen. Once you've done that, you'll not only be a MONSTER, but you'll actually be able to use AAS what it's intended for: Making big dudes BIGGER. It's not a short-cut, it's not a magic pill, it's a quick way to find out you can waste a lot of money and potentially hurt yourself.

Stick around here, you're off to a shaky start - but I promise you'll learn so much here you'll be more than prepared when it's time to take that leap... Which just isn't quite yet. ;)

My .02c :)
 
Yea I definatley don't want that to happen! I will stick around like I said I'll do a cycle in 2-3 years for now I am going to work out hard and diet strong (it's kinda of like that added motivation) and ill be huge and then ill do a just test cycle. And then after ill start adding other things slowly .. Makes sense to me now completely. I will not be doing that big cycle 100% no way. Much to learn much to learn *sigh* :/.
 
Yea I definatley don't want that to happen! I will stick around like I said I'll do a cycle in 2-3 years for now I am going to work out hard and diet strong (it's kinda of like that added motivation) and ill be huge and then ill do a just test cycle. And then after ill start adding other things slowly .. Makes sense to me now completely. I will not be doing that big cycle 100% no way. Much to learn much to learn *sigh* :/.

Stick around brother, we'll take care of you. There's a lot to learn, but eventually it all just makes sense. :)
 
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