First cycle and winstrol safety

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Bennyblanco121

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Hello everyone. I'm currently on my first cycle ever. I'm 38 and am doing a cutting cycle. My cycle consists of testosterone proprianate/trenbolone enanthate and Stanozolol. I started my cycle back on the last week of March. I'm currently about midway through the cycle. I'm on my 3rd bottles of tren and test 10ml vials and on my 2nd bottle of Stanozolol 20 ml vial. I have one bial each of test prop and tren left after this one. I'm already prepped for post cycle after I'm done. I have a vial of hcg and also 30 clomid pills. And 30 pills of proviron.

My question is, should I "save" this second bottle of Stanozolol for a 2nd cycle in the fall. I've heard online that running winstrol too long could be dangerous and just finish the tren and test and start post.
 
Wow, just jumped in head first didn't you. :eek:

As winstrol is methylated, you definitely want to limit use to 6 weeks or less, as this makes it liver toxic. Also, proviron is not to be used in PCT, as it too is an anabolic-androgenic steroid, which is suppressive to your HPTA.

I'd give the sticky at the top of the AAS forum a good read to understand better where you could have improved your cycle.

My .02c :)
 
Im no man but from what I have seen posted you shouldn't be using all that stuff at once on first cycle. read aas threads at the top of the aas section.
 
Thank you halfwit! Especially your clarification with the proviron and how I shouldn't start that second bottle of winstrol. I'll start the proviron now since I'm only about midway through cycle and could make use of the pills. I'm leaving the sunny for a later cycle. How close to the end of the cycle should I start the clomid? I've gotten different feedback. Se say wait till im done the cycle others say start now so it's in my system already during start of post
halfwit said:
Wow, just jumped in head first didn't you. :eek:

As winstrol is methylated, you definitely want to limit use to 6 weeks or less, as this makes it liver toxic. Also, proviron is not to be used in PCT, as it too is an anabolic-androgenic steroid, which is suppressive to your HPTA.

I'd give the sticky at the top of the AAS forum a good read to understand better where you could have improved your cycle.

My .02c :)
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Thank you Megatron. I'll be checking these sites to get lab work. I haven't checked blood levels but I haven't felt any different or experienced anything rambling a serious side effect from the winny. I'm definitely coming off of it and not staring that second bottle.
Megatron28 said:
How are your liver and kidneys looking? I hope you are checking your blood work.
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You use clomid in PCT, not during the cycle. Nolva should be used during PCT as well.

I hope you are running hCG on cycle to minimize testicular atrophy as this will help you recover faster during PCT.
 
I'll wait till end of cycle for the clomid therapy. I have the HCG vial but was told to mix and start it right after cycle. Should I do one now and get a second one for my post cycle? I'll also ask about getting the NolvA for the post cycle
Megatron28 said:
You use clomid in PCT, not during the cycle. Nolva should be used during PCT as well.

I hope you are running hCG on cycle to minimize testicular atrophy as this will help you recover faster during PCT.
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You should not use hCG during PCT. It is HPTA suppressive. You are trying to get your HPTA working again during PCT so the last thing you want to do is suppress it.

hCG should be used from Day 1 up until about 3 days before PCT starts.

Who is this guy that is giving you advice? A lot of it seems like pretty bad advice.

You are 38 years old. I would have hoped that you would have done more research before putting these powerful hormones in your body.
 
I was given the rundown as to how and when to inject and take the pills and the HCG etc. I trusted the suppliers of the gear as such one of them is a relative of mine. I started doing my own research a couple of weeks in and it's lead me to this point. I'm glad I did. I'm noticing that I've been given all of the wrong advice and info on the gear. I thank you and everyone else for the feedback. I'm a learner and researcher by nature so I'll be making my own and better decisions moving forward With the help of this online community. Thanks again. I'll start the HCG as well now and get more of it to make sure I have enough for the rest of the cycle.
Megatron28 said:
You should not use hCG during PCT. It is HPTA suppressive. You are trying to get your HPTA working again during PCT so the last thing you want to do is suppress it.

hCG should be used from Day 1 up until about 3 days before PCT starts.

Who is this guy that is giving you advice? A lot of it seems like pretty bad advice.

You are 38 years old. I would have hoped that you would have done more research before putting these powerful hormones in your body.
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don't think it was said above but since you're using tren E and test P they'll run out of your system different times.

prop will be out in a week where as the tren will be in there for a good 2-3 weeks after you finish.

A good idea would be to pct 3 weeks after you finish using the tren and at least a week after finishing the prop...otherwise your PCT won't do jack all
 
Onk said:
don't think it was said above but since you're using tren E and test P they'll run out of your system different times.

prop will be out in a week where as the tren will be in there for a good 2-3 weeks after you finish.

A good idea would be to pct 3 weeks after you finish using the tren and at least a week after finishing the prop...otherwise your PCT won't do jack all
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From what I have been reading I would also agree ^^^
The testp will be out much quicker.
 
I have always heard the first time use of Tren should be Tren-A since it leaves the body quickly. That way if you have sides you cannot stand, you can stop and in a week they are gone, unlike the 5 or so weeks Tren-E will take.
 
Megatron28 said:
You should not use hCG during PCT. It is HPTA suppressive. You are trying to get your HPTA working again during PCT so the last thing you want to do is suppress it.

hCG should be used from Day 1 up until about 3 days before PCT starts.

Who is this guy that is giving you advice? A lot of it seems like pretty bad advice.

You are 38 years old. I would have hoped that you would have done more research before putting these powerful hormones in your body.
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my friend uses the HCG stuff last few weeks of cycle. but he also said its not good to use during the PCT part, even though using it just before PCT helps it, its a bit confusing to me that one but these guys know their stuff so dont use HCG in pct use it during cycle and use clomid as pct, not during cycle.

a lot of older guys have their idea of how things are done and then stop staying up to date on it or looking into it. it seems the advice you are getting is pretty bad so far and i would be careful with all future advice from them. it doesn't take much brains to get big ( i mean no offense, just saying if the guy is a monster size, doesn't necessarily mean he knows what hes doing drug wise or doing it safely. )
 
I'm pretty new to these forums, But I have had plenty experience with winstrol both oral and injectable, and as stated above try not to run more then 6 weeks and usually use it towards the end of a larger cycle so you look nice and hard by the time your starting your pct, be safe!
 
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