first cycle anyone got b&a pics? and advice?

[Spencer87]

heyo. since I have a 3 week trip coming up December - January (and not sure how many times I can make it to the gym) I'm not starting my first cycle till January.
I'm currently slowly getting the supplies together though

so far I have bought dbol and a post cycle therapy thing and something to prevent gyno. I just bought 20 amps of test sust (2x a week for 12 weeks.)

im planning some Masteron too.
so I was thinking 12 weeks of test sust, with 4 weeks of dbol at the beginning, and then 4 weeks of Masteron at the end. could you tell me if that sounds decent? I'm also wondering kinda what type of gains I could expect, and if you guys could find any before first cycle and after pics for reference.

my diet is.... not the greatest because I live in Indonesia and healthy stuff is hard to find. I try to stick with chicken, a bit of beef, and unfortunately white rice is hard to avoid here . also... after the dbol is finished is a little drinking in moderation OK? 1-2 a month or so?

thanks for help

 

[juced_porkchop]

welcome to the forum.
well you are about to make a bunch of mistakes. from using more than one compound on first cycle to not fully understanding PCT or estrogen control or the compounds you plan to use.
stop buying anything and just research for a while so you dont waste money or end up doing a risky cycle.
here is a couple threads you should read>
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...ycling-beginners-guide-safe-androgen-use.html

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...rs-gyno-post-cycle-therapy-pct-must-read.html


and read the other threads stuck uptop the aas section. good luck

 

[3J]

here you go.. everything you need to know

http://www.steroidology.com/beginners-steroids-training-and-diet-protocol/

 

[Milton]

my diet is.... not the greatest because I live in Indonesia and healthy stuff is hard to find. I try to stick with chicken, a bit of beef, and unfortunately white rice is hard to avoid here . also... after the dbol is finished is a little drinking in moderation OK? 1-2 a month or so?

thanks for help

i beg to differ,, Indonesia has some of the healthiest natural foods around. What do you want, proceeded foods and burger king??? and you want to drink alcohol to boot during your cycle? your kidneys are going to love you Charlie.

 

[Gibsonator]

Never impossible to get/cook healthy food. Does require a lot of effort sometimes, buts that's the price you must pay to reach your goals of greatness. I'm sure alcohol isn't going to help and would probably set you back. I quit drinking 10 months ago and the health benefits are amazing.

 

[oldmusclemike]

Spencer I am only going to address one thing here and that's the alcohol consumption. I myself have been clean n sober for 6 years. So I don't advocate abusing alcohol or just the consumption of a few drinks a day.

It is my experience that a few dinks here and there will not harm you and a cycle. I personally know of a pro that would have a drink or two ( at most) maybe a couple of times a month. However the use was very, very seldom.

You know that you would be better off without any drinking, but I am just saying kept to a very minimum. So a drink or maybe 2 once twice a week will not hinder you. But as we know it is hard to put it down after the first drink.

MY 2 cents

 

[Spencer87]

Ok, So to address a few things here, I have done my research on PCT, and know about it, as well as the compounds that are good to take, although a refresher wont hurt, I just forgot the names of them. If i remember correctly, its like 3 different compounds. I have a friend that is pretty advanced in using Steroids so he helped me.

As for the multiple compounds.... well.. Dbol wouldnt be great on its own without a test base, so thats where the test base comes in, and If Im going to be running a test base, i might as well run for the whole cycle. and if im running for the whole cycle, I might as well add something else to the end.

Haha. well My goals were kinda to bulk up and then cut. I was just gunna run Dbol and then winny, but decided on masteron later and researched enough to find out that DBol by itself isnt the greatest.

As for the drinking... I am talking like 1-2 a month. there are work gatherings that end up in bars... was nice to know if i have to swear off alcohol like the plague, or if a drink is going to kill me.

@Milton...
what kinda food you talking about? White rice and noodles man. thats what they got here. And chicken. the chicken isnt the worst... the rice and noodles is what gives in... the base is always rice or noodles. so much rice.
empty carbs. I try to stay away from the rice as much as possible.. But its not healthy....They have some healthy foods here. but not the greatest.

And as for cooking food. ... third world man. first, hard to find stuff I know how to cook, Thats besides the point. The supermarkets here have cockroaches crawling all around it. ... I worry about the diseases (They say if you see cockroaches in the day time the infestation is really bad, ive definitely seen them in the day time in the supermarket.) I got so grossed out from them, I decided not to use that supermarket

anyways, thanks for the help thus far

 

[carverelli]

Go ahead and run 3 or 4 compounds at once start end finish make no never mind. But when side affects start rolling in. Go ask your friend how to fix it, cuz I'll be a little busy.
1st cycle, 1 compound...test only. No need to complicate things right from the get go. Dbol is an esrigen bomb for many, causing several problems like high blood pressure, gyno, water retention. How much ai will you need with test and dbol... what about when you drop the dbol then how much. You need to have a pretty good idea about these things before you start stacking shit in a cycle.
Rant over. I'm out

 

[blakey]

One more thing if you're looking to bulk up its hard to go past chicken and rice man that's a basic body building meal right there

 

[juced_porkchop]

with that mentality you might as welll just buy every steroid they have made and take them all and buy a burial ground in advance.
you DO NOT fully understand these compounds and things or you would not have this outlook...
also i dont care howmany cycles your friend has done or how big he is. i have met soem big, very stupid people. getting big isnt actually that hard longterm and abusing a bunch of crap doesnt make you advanced. i rarely use more than 2 compounds ans have been doing this for years... test alone IS a cycle...
slow and stedy and safely AND optimally is the way to go about this

good luck

 

[Milton]

hows your upcoming cycle looking?