First cycle help needed!

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soulchoice

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I am new to this board, but I see that there are many knowledgeable people on here, thus I have a question that I hope some of you may be able to answer.

First I will give you my details. I am 28 years old, have been training for about a two years. I am 5' 8" about 140lbs and my bf% is about 6%. I have decided to use some things to help me bulk up. My goals are to gain some weight, but quality weight.

Initially I was only going to use Dbol, but after researching, I have now decided to use an injection as well. I have been running pink dbol for about two weeks now, taking a dose of 25mg a day. My strength and weight have gone up considerably.

My question to you people is this, is it okay for me to introduce an injectible into my system now, considering I have been on dbol for 2 weeks. I have bought enough test enanthate to last for about 8 weeks. How many mg's would be sufficient enough for me to see some decent quality gains if I am stacking dbol. Is there another steroid that would have been more beneficial to me than the test? I am also going to be running clomid post cycle.

Any and all help would be appreciated, thank you.
 
This thread is for newbies looking for cycles for specific goals.

Now before I get started, I have to emphisize that your diet is the key to achieving your goals. All cycles can be turned into a bulking cycle or cutting depending on your food consumption.

*Clomid therapy: 36 pills. 300mg day 1, 100mg next 10, 50mg final 10.

Solid first cycle

Week 1 to 10: 400mg of EQ
Week 1 to 10: 250mg of Test
Week 13 to 15: Clomid Therapy*

This will yield solid results. Depending on diet, training, and genetics, this cycle should yield anywhere form 15-25lbs to a first time gear user

Bulking Cycle # 1

Week 1 to 16: .5mg of arimidex EOD
Week 1 to 6: 30mg of D-bol ED
Week 1 to 10: 600mg of EQ
Week 1 to 10: 750mg of Test
Week 11 to 12: 500ius of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and 20mg of Nolvadex ED
Week 13 to 15: Clomid Therapy*

Bulking Cycle # 2

Week 1 to 5: 50mg of Anadrol ED
Week 1 to 6: 750mg of Test
Week 1 to 10: 400mg of Deca
Week 5 to 6: 500ius of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and 20mg of Nolvadex ED
Week 7 to 12: 75mg of Fina ED
Week 7 to 12: 100mg of Prop ED
Week 7 to 12: 50mg of Winstrol (winny) ED
Week 11 to 12: 500ius of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and 20mg of Nolavadex ED
Week 13 to 15: Clomid Therapy*

Cutting Cycle # 1

Week 1 to 8: 50mg of Prop ED
Week 1 to 8: 75mg of Fina ED
Week 1 to 8: 50mg of Winstrol (winny) ED
Week 1 to 10: 50mg of proviron ED
Week 11 to 12: 500ius of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) with 20mg of Nolvadex ED
Week 13 to 15: Clomid therapy

Cutting Cycle # 2

Week 1 to 16: .5mg of Arimidex EOD
Week 1 to 10: 400mg of EQ
Week 1 to 8: 40mg of Oxandralone ED
Week 4 to 12: 50mg of Prop ED
Week 7 to 12: 50mg of Winstrol (winny) ED
Week 11 to 12: 500ius of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and 20mg of Nolvadex ED
Week 13 to 15: Clomid Therapy*

Lean Mass Cycle

Week 1 to 16: .5mg of Arimidex EOD
Week 1 to 12: 2ius of GH 5 on 2 off
Week 1 to 10: 500mg of Test
Week 1 to 12: 400mg of EQ
Week 7 to 12: 40mg of Oxanadralone
Week 11 to 12: 500ius of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and 20mg of Nolvadex ED
Week 14 to 16: Clomid Therapy*

Basic bridge

Week 1 to 8: 30mg of Oxandralone ED
Week 1 to 8: 10 grams of creatine and 20 grams of glutamine Ed

Experienced Bridge

Week 1 to 8: 10ius of Insulin post workout
Week 1 to 8: 10 grams of creatine and 20 grams of glutamine Ed
Week 1 to 8: 100grams of Dextrose 10 minutes after slin shot
Week 1 to 8: 150grams( 3 shakes) of WPI during active time of slin.

There are many different combination that we can all use in the Iron Game. I have only used a few. These are basic cycles that will work well for many users. I have excluded Deca as I feel its negative effects on a HPTA is esaily avoided with the use of EQ. Some will say Fina will do the same thing, but because its ester works much faster, I believe it is not as suppressive as Deca.

Remember Diet is the key to all cycles. If you dont eat enough, you wont bulk, if you eat to much, you wont cut.

Diet is the key to success in the Iron Game!!


Guys, good luck and be safe!
 
i would think that runniing enanthate for only 8 weeks isnt gonna be as beneficial as running a compund with a shorter ester, like tren for 8 weeks. reason being (besided tren being more powerful) you have to consider the fact that the test enanthate will take 3 or so weeks to "kick in". and by then you would have been on your 5th week of d-bol already. this should be a lessen to you to not start your cycle until you have it all planned out and all of your gear on hand
 
I know, but the thing is that I was not going to use any injections for fear of needles. I know, that sounds bad. I have since toughened up and decided to take the plunge. Next time I will be fully prepared. I am kicking myself right now for being so stubborn despite what people were telling me.
 
Dont do anything until you can use a needle... I dont care how scared you are...ORals will do damage to your liver!!
 
well, get some test prop and throw that into your cycle. but dont make your cycle go longer than 10 weeks cause your gonna hate ed or eod injects.
 
dude i just started my first injection and i have done oral d-bol cycle by itself and let me tell you with the help of this board and plenty of research
what the hell did i ever do orals for
the poke is scarry but hurts less than a cramp or muscle frog and way less than stubbing your toe
bro research and get over your fear you will love it
 
Definitely, not the pain, but the thought of poking myself. I really have done alot of research into steroids. I just was to wimpy to ever take the plunge, until now. I was scared of the INJECTION, till now. I figured for my size, that I could get away with 400mg of test/week and a daily dose of 25mg of Dbol a day.
 
I always thought it was funny, that newbies were ready and willing to "tear up the liver" but were afraid of needles. My first injection took me probably near half an hour, I'm not shitting you. I could not make up my mind to go in slow, or fast, or what, thankfully I did it the "right way" when injecting yourself. Touch it to the skin (in the right spot), and puncture slowly.

It seems funny to me now that it was such a freaky thing for me, but injectables are where its at, now it is around 5 minutes or so from filling to pushing.

The only pain you'd experience, is from pricking yourself and then backing off the needle, seriously that stings a bit. Touch to the skin and slowly push, and there should be no pain.

www.spotinjections.com is the site I believe, should show you basically where to hit, some spots are better than others. I like delts and the rear end, I've hit quads but they make it tough for me to walk depending on the gear.

400mg/week is enough for most first timers, maybe a perfect amount. I was 215 and kept 14 pounds after a 250mg/week Ttokkyo Sustanon (sust) cycle for 10 weeks.
 
beautiful response mudge he is so right and dont forget to asperate u dont wanna fuxx up and die lol but seriously www.spotinjections has all the info and places to poke and how to i find the bigger the muscel the less pain i just started and already i'm like a fucking chemist mixing my shots myself or should i say combining them but any who your results are more aparent and that lower pain in your back from orals in the third week isnt there i go up in weight on a daily in the gym after this i just might become a fucking airborne ranger

THE PEOPLE ON THIS SITE ARE JUST WONDERFUL AND THE MODS SUPREME STONECOLD THATS MY BOY (SHOUT OUT ) DUDE TRY IT PLAY SOME SIXTY'S SHIT LIKE THE DOORS OR ZEPPLIN DURRING YOUR BATH THEN GET TA POKIN
 
LAWNSAVER said:
Cutting Cycle # 1

Week 1 to 8: 50mg of Prop ED
Week 1 to 8: 75mg of Fina ED
Week 1 to 8: 50mg of Winstrol (winny) ED
Week 1 to 10: 50mg of proviron ED
Week 11 to 12: 500ius of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) with 20mg of Nolvadex ED
Week 13 to 15: Clomid therapy

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Diet is the key to success in the Iron Game!!


Guys, good luck and be safe!
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Lawn,
I think you made a typo on this one, you can start clomid three days after the end of week 8.
 
Definitely, not the pain, but the thought of poking myself. I really have done alot of research into steroids. I just was to wimpy to ever take the plunge, until now. I was scared of the INJECTION, till now. I figured for my size, that I could get away with 400mg of test/week and a daily dose of 25mg of Dbol a day.
 
Soulchoice, it's eazy bro. I did my first injection two and a half weeks ago and was sweating like crazy, my bro's said that I looked like I was gonna pass out. :sleep2: I took a couple of breath's and went in for the kill. I've injected four more time's since then and everytime it just get's easier. Have someone there when you do your first one just incase something goes wrong and be sure and get info from www.spotinjections.com . Stick around bro, and welcome to the board.
Good luck!
 
Lawnsaver, quick question for ya. Say someone did a short "first" four week cycle of "Deca D" and then a year or two later did a cycle of "Test" only. What would the gains be? If you waited that long would your body react to the Test as if it were your first cycle? One of my bro's did Deca about a year and a half ago and want's to know.
Thanks bro
 
Yeah, I think that's what he want's though... He want's the Test cycle to give him just as much as his first cycle did.. BTW he gained 24 pound's on Deca in only four week's.. Pretty wild huh..
 
As in a new thread that I started, I thought I would add to this one. I finally did the injection. No problems, much easier than I thought it would be. I have now finally entered the darkside!!!:D
 
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