First Cycle looks dangerous

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I need some serious advice on the following cycle that was given to me by a Pro bodybuilder to help me achieve max gains over the next 6 months.
I was under the assumption for a first cycle I should really only be doing Test.

My question is, how will this cycle laid out below affect me considering it would be my first. Besdides the obvious cost of it all, what will I get out of this cycle?
To me it looks pretty aggressive.

Stats:
47 , M
193lbs
14%BF

MASS-GAINING CYCLE:
WEEK 1-6
1. 250mg testosterone enanthate 3x per week
2. 200mg Deca 3x per week
3. Growth Hormone (GH): 2IU’s per day every morning upon waking
4. 1mg Arimidex or 2.5mg Femara
WEEK 7-12
1. 250mg testosterone cypionate 3x per week
2. 200mg EQ 3x per week
3. Growth Hormone (GH): 2IU’s per day every morning upon waking
4. 1mg Arimidex or 2.5mg Femara
WEEKS 13-18
1. 250mg Sustanon-250 or Test Cypionate (or Enanthate) 3x per week
2. 75mg trenbolone 3x per week
3. Continue GH (2IU per morning)
4. 1mg Arimidex or 2.5mg Femara
 
What you have heard about test alone on your first cycle is correct. From everything I've read and been advised on here, you will see very good gains on 400-500mg of test ent or cyp per week. Throwing your money away with all the others. Maybe on your second cycle you could add deca or eg. As for the hgh, someone else could advise there perhaps.
 
Someone then suggested a 12 week cycle of 500mg Test E ew and running Novedex XT with it.
Will that eliminate the need to run a pct?
 
The test yes. The nolva should be used for post cycle therapy (pct). Always run PCT after a cycle. You might use nolva during cycle if you get sides but a better choice might be arimidex or letrozole for gyno. Many will reccomend Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for testicular atrophy as well.
 
I need some serious advice on the following cycle that was given to me by a Pro bodybuilder to help me achieve max gains over the next 6 months.
I was under the assumption for a first cycle I should really only be doing Test.

My question is, how will this cycle laid out below affect me considering it would be my first. Besdides the obvious cost of it all, what will I get out of this cycle?
To me it looks pretty aggressive.

Stats:
47 , M
193lbs
14%BF

MASS-GAINING CYCLE:
WEEK 1-6
1. 250mg testosterone enanthate 3x per week
2. 200mg Deca 3x per week
3. Growth Hormone (GH): 2IU’s per day every morning upon waking
4. 1mg Arimidex or 2.5mg Femara
WEEK 7-12
1. 250mg testosterone cypionate 3x per week
2. 200mg EQ 3x per week
3. Growth Hormone (GH): 2IU’s per day every morning upon waking
4. 1mg Arimidex or 2.5mg Femara
WEEKS 13-18
1. 250mg Sustanon-250 or Test Cypionate (or Enanthate) 3x per week
2. 75mg trenbolone 3x per week
3. Continue GH (2IU per morning)
4. 1mg Arimidex or 2.5mg Femara


Daummmm, a lot of shit
 
Someone then suggested a 12 week cycle of 500mg Test E ew and running Novedex XT with it.
Will that eliminate the need to run a pct?

Novedex XT is an OTC product, what you need is Nolvadex (tamoxifen) which a completely different compound.

Dose for PCT @ 40/40/20/20 or as livebigdieyoung said clomid @ 50/50/50/50
 
That looks like a fun advanced cycle thats alot of test but the deca is just right, Tren could wait awhile from what I hear, im gonna try Tren down the road since Im not progest. side prone. hell I was on as much as 800MG of T. EW so i cant judge.

2 iu's of gh is very conservative with how people dose it these days, I hate A-dexand love Ex-Stane better.

deff. keep the PCT meds for PCT only.
 
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You need to run a Novice/beginner cycle... Trash the idea bro'. If you bought all that gear save it....

Run a cycle of Test 500mg for 12-16 weeks
and MAYBE throw in another compound.

I'd rather see you run a TEST/DECA or TEST EQ cycle then that craziness.
 
Example:

wks 1-12 Test 500mg

Clomid/Nolva PCT
wks 15-18

AI:
On hand or Adex at .50mg EOD Starting week 3 or 4. Sooner if you use a compound that kicks in faster then Test E,C or Sust.
(ONLY USE LETRO IF YOU HAVE GYNO)
IF letro is the only thing you have run it at a very low dose. Letro is the stronges Aromatase inhibitor (AI) out there. Running Letro at 2.5mg ED will kill all your estrogen. Estrogen is needed to grow, have a libido and other things....
 
Test Enan 500 mg. 8-12 wks is the way to go with a Dbol 20-30 mg ED - split up

However contemplating ending with Primo (Schering Turkey) for the last 4-6 wks depending on the length of the cycle to cut up a bit, I mean it can't hurt.

I'd end with anavar
 
That looks like a fun advanced cycle thats alot of test but the deca is just right, Tren could wait awhile from what I hear, im gonna try Tren down the road since Im not progest. side prone. hell I was on as much as 800MG of T. EW so i cant judge.

2 iu's of gh is very conservative with how people dose it these days, I hate A-dexand love Ex-Stane better.

deff. keep the PCT meds for PCT only.

deca for only 6 weeks is not right. I know some people will say that it works but deca that short is not recommended.
 
Dude, this is to big a cycle for your first time, i would seriously re-consider this guys advice from now on, no-one should recommend that to a beginner, pro-bodybuiler or not.

You could seriously fuckup your body and hormones on that. Stick to the advice of people on here and do a Test only cycle first.
 
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