First Cycle - Medistar Test-e & T-bol

[blitzalpha]

Hey guys, I've been planning a cycle for the past 6 months and plan on starting one in the next few weeks.

Here are my stats:

Age: 28
Height: 6'5"
Weight: 215lbs
BF %: ~10%
Experience: been training naturally for about 5 years


This is the cycle that I plan on running using Medistar products:


Testosterone enthanate 500mg/wk (250 mon/thurs) wks 1-12
oral tbol 50mg ED wks 1-6
aromasin 12.5mg ED wks 1-14
hcg 500iu/wk (250iu mon/thurs) wks 1-11
hcg 500iu/day wks 12-(4 days before wk 14)


PCT:
Aromasin 25mg ED/25/25/12.5 wks 14-17
Nolvadex 40mg ED/40/20/20/10 wks 14-18


What do you guys think of this cycle? How do the dosages and duration of my aromasin and hcg look? Should I blast my hcg prior to pct? How is my pct? Should I make any modifications to my cycle? Thanks in advance!

 

[blitzalpha]

First Cycle - Medistar Testosterone-e & T-bol

Hey guys, I've been planning a cycle for the past 6 months and plan on starting one in the next few weeks.

Here are my stats:

Age: 28
Height: 6'5"
Weight: 215lbs
BF %: ~10%
Experience: been training naturally for about 5 years


This is the cycle that I plan on running using Medistar products:


Testosterone enthanate 500mg/wk (250 mon/thurs) wks 1-12
oral tbol 50mg ED wks 1-6
aromasin 12.5mg ED wks 1-14
hcg 500iu/wk (250iu mon/thurs) wks 1-11
hcg 500iu/day wks 12-(4 days before wk 14)


PCT:
Aromasin 25mg ED/25/25/12.5 wks 14-17
Nolvadex 40mg ED/40/20/20/10 wks 14-18


What do you guys think of this cycle? How do the dosages and duration of my aromasin and hcg look? Should I blast my hcg prior to post cycle therapy (pct)? How is my post cycle therapy (pct)? Should I make any modifications to my cycle? Thanks in advance!

 

[scotimusprime]

ah this was my first cycle. medistar test e and t-bol. it was great.

i dont think there is any need to do 500 iu a day at the end of HCG but im sure someone else will shed some light on that

tbol amount seems low. I started at 60 and moved up to 80mg with no sides

oh ya BTW how do you only have 2 posts since 2004? how did you even remember your password? haha

 

[Cobra Strike]

you may as well went with dbol...tbol is weak. It looks like you might have read a sticky on standard pct

 

[blitzalpha]

Ya hopefully the medistar test-e and t-bol turns out to be a solid cycle. I'm hoping to gain about 30lbs on it. I pulled this pct protocol from Det-Oak's Standard PCT sticky. He mentions for a light cycle:

#2 Use 500iu's a week of HCG for your entire cycle. Then use 500iu's every day for the 10 days leading up to 4 days before SERM treatment.

Would this protocol be overkill in my cycle? Should I stick to using hcg at 500iu/wk (250iu mon/thurs) wks 1-14 from the start of my cycle right up to the start of post cycle therapy (pct)? Also, in my pct, should my aromasin run longer than my nolva to prevent rebound?

Lol ya I opened this account years ago. It took me a few tries to remember my pass but I managed to get in...

 

[blitzalpha]

Since this is my first cycle I think I'll stick with t-bol instead of d-bol for now just to make sure that I can handle the sides of test first. I think maybe I'll increase the t-bol to 60mg to start because at 50mg I'll have a lot left over at the end of my cycle.

 

[tednatas]

Since this is my first cycle I think I'll stick with t-bol instead of d-bol for now just to make sure that I can handle the sides of test first. I think maybe I'll increase the t-bol to 60mg to start because at 50mg I'll have a lot left over at the end of my cycle.

Point 1... I like that you read... Good

Point 2...If you really want to see if you can handle the sides of just test, why not just run test?

 

[Cobra Strike]

Point 1... I like that you read... Good

Point 2...If you really want to see if you can handle the sides of just test, why not just run test?

T e D n A t A s is correct....run test by itslef the first time....you can gauge sides if your running 2 compounds on your first cycle

 

[blitzalpha]

I could just run test by itself but I already have the t-bol. Also, I don't mind sacrificing a few pounds for the milder sides of t-bol compared to d-bol.

 

[tednatas]

I could just run test by itself but I already have the t-bol. Also, I don't mind sacrificing a few pounds for the milder sides of t-bol compared to d-bol.

You don't even know that yet though brother. Yes it's milder to a degree my man but you have no idea what is and what isn't.. Save the tbol for the next go around.. let test soak in your squeaky clean receptors now. Save the tbol for later....

 

[blitzalpha]

Ok thanks for the advice bro. How does my Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) protocol look? Should I run the 10 day blast phase at 500mg ED right before post cycle therapy (pct) for this cycle or just go with 500mg 2x wk? Am I running my aromasin long enough in my post cycle therapy (pct)? Should I run it longer than nolva to prevent rebound? What do you think?

 

[Cobra Strike]

Ok thanks for the advice bro. How does my Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) protocol look? Should I run the 10 day blast phase at 500mg ED right before post cycle therapy (pct) for this cycle or just go with 500mg 2x wk? Am I running my aromasin long enough in my post cycle therapy (pct)? Should I run it longer than nolva to prevent rebound? What do you think?

id stick with the regular 500x2/week up until 4 days before post cycle therapy (pct)...your running a very mild cycle of test only. Rebound doesnt always occur

 

[supersafado]

Blitz, i like that you have done some homework. It shows. We appreciate that. might look into clomid in place of nolva. just a thought.

 

[blitzalpha]

I'm going to stick with frontloading my cycle with t-bol but I'm going to increase the dose to 60mg ED and run it for a week longer. If I keep the t-bol in my cycle, should I keep running the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) from start to 4 days before pct at a regular 500mg 2x wk or should I add the 10 day blast before post cycle therapy (pct)? Even with the t-bol this would be considered a pretty mild cycle wouldn't it? I've read that nolva works better with aromasin than clomid so I'll keep nolva in my pct.

 

[Cobra Strike]

I'm going to stick with frontloading my cycle with t-bol but I'm going to increase the dose to 60mg ED and run it for a week longer. If I keep the t-bol in my cycle, should I keep running the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) from start to 4 days before pct at a regular 500mg 2x wk or should I add the 10 day blast before post cycle therapy (pct)? Even with the t-bol this would be considered a pretty mild cycle wouldn't it? I've read that nolva works better with aromasin than clomid so I'll keep nolva in my pct.

Ya its still a mild cycle...that tbol will be out of your system by the time you end your cycle so just run the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) regularly imo

 

[blitzalpha]

Alright, here is my revised cycle based on the above suggestions:

Testosterone enthanate 500mg/wk (250 mon/thurs) wks 1-12
oral tbol 60mg ED wks 1-7
aromasin 12.5mg ED wks 1-14
hcg 500iu/wk (250iu mon/thurs) wks 1-(4 days before wk 14)

PCT:
Aromasin 25mg ED/25/25/12.5 wks 14-17
Nolvadex 40mg ED/40/20/20/10 wks 14-18

I'm still a little unsure if I should run the aromasin in my pct longer than the nolva or just leave it as is...

 

[Cobra Strike]

I think that all looks good except I wouldnt raise your dosage on the aromasin...but that is up for debate

 

[blitzalpha]

I was going to keep the same dosages on the aromasin in my post cycle therapy (pct) but maybe just run it longer. I read somewhere (can't remember where) that the aromasin in your post cycle therapy (pct) should run a week or two longer than the nolva in order to prevent rebound that my occur. Is this true?

Also, what are some good support supplements that I should be taking while on cycle? So far I've been looking at taking Liv-52, finasteride, and 2% nizoral shampoo. Is there anything else that I should be looking at?

 

[blitzalpha]

I made a couple tweaks to my cycle. I extended the aromasin in my post cycle therapy (pct) so that it runs a week longer than the nolva to prevent any estro rebound that may occur. I also lowered the dosage and duration of my tbol to 50mg over 5 weeks.


Revised cycle:

Testosterone enthanate 500mg/wk (250 mon/thurs) wks 1-12
tbol 50mg ED wks 1-5
aromasin 12.5mg ED wks 1-14
hcg 500iu/wk (250iu mon/thurs) wks 1-(4 days before wk 14)

post cycle therapy (pct):
Nolvadex 40mg ED/40/20/20/10 wks 14-18
Aromasin 25mg ED/25/25/25/25/12.5 wks 14-19


I'm going to try using finasteride on this cycle at 1.25mg/day while I'm on the test-e. I'm also going to use nizoral shampoo, liv-52, and milk thistle on this cycle. Are there any other support supplements that I should look into? Is saw palmetto worth using? If all goes well, I'm looking to start this cycle in a few weeks and I'll be keeping a log to track my progress.

 

[350zaddict]

can someone pm me how to get in contact with the right source for medistar products?. thanks guys.