First Cycle; Please advise.

[Zait]

Hello,

Long time reader of the forums. Just signed up though.

Stats:
Age: 30
Height: 5'9''
Weight: 170lbs
BodyFat%: 10-12
Experience:
-6 years weight training.
-Nutrition is in check.
-2 cycles or pro-hormones.
-HDROL
-Clen/T3 Experience.

Goals:
I would like to get to a lean 190.

Comments:
I didn't see much results from my PH cycles. They helped me recomp, but not add much muscle.
I am looking to step into the real game with a beginner 15 week Test-e cycle and to stay lean add in a 4-6 week T3 cycle.
I have experience with T3 so I feel that adding it is okay for my first AAS cycle.
If adding T3 is still advised against I will consider throwing it out.

BEFORE CYCLE:
I will be getting blood work done before starting this cycle.
I also plan on getting blood work mid cycle(week 8) and post cycle(week 23).
I plan on giving/donating blood post blood work pre cycle and also after week 8's blood work.

WEEK 1-15
test-e 500mg per week.
-250mg pinned on Monday.
-250mg pinned on Thursday.
WEEK 1-21
Some sort of AI(Aromatase Inhibitor)
-Open to suggestions I know RUI products come highly recommended, but I'd rather take this is pill form. Open to any input here though.
WEEK 1-15
Hcg 500iu per week.
-250iu pinned Monday.
-250iu pinned Thursday.
WEEK 6-10
T3 50mcg-75mcg every day.
WEEK 18-21
PCT(14 Days after last test-e pin):
Clomiphene Citrate(everyday): 50mg/50mg/50mg/50mg
Tamoxifen Citrate (everyday): 40mg/40mg/20mg/20mg


Questions:
-Some start using an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) 4-6 weeks into their cycles. Some stop when they stop pinning test. What is ideal here?
As of right now I am planning on running if from the beginning and through the end of my PCT.

-Hcg is commonly sold in 5000ui units. This is enough for a 10 week supply.
Instead of running it for 15 weeks is it okay to start on week 5 and run till week 15 or should I just get another 5000ui and waste 5 weeks of it?

-Can I get a moderator or someone with extensive knowledge to shoot me a PM to discuss other stuff?
I understand if no one is willing since my post count is basically zero.
I am prepared to "stick around the boards and makes friends.".

 

[3J]

whats your diet going to look like??

 

[MustangDX]

Everything looks pretty good

Take the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) from the very first pin, till you start your PCT. Arimidex and Aromasin are the most common, research each and decide which one is better for you. RUI has great ancillaries

Get the second vial of HCG. Start it week 1, till the 4th day before PCT.

 

[Kazmir]

Definitely agree the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) should be taken from day 1 as aromatisation of the test begins with the first pin. If your looking for a recomp with lean mass gain it is completely going to be dependent on your diet, don't expect the test to do it for you as it is only a tool to aid. I highly recommend using 3J's service he can get you there and more. Normally I would say bulk or cut but being at 170 and your first cycle you can gain lean weight with proper diet and 3J is the man you wanna talk to.

 

[Wheyson]

Hello,

Long time reader of the forums. Just signed up though.

Stats:
Age: 30
Height: 5'9''
Weight: 170lbs
BodyFat%: 10-12
Experience:
-6 years weight training.
-Nutrition is in check.
-2 cycles or pro-hormones.
-HDROL
-Clen/T3 Experience.

Goals:
I would like to get to a lean 190.

Comments:
I didn't see much results from my PH cycles. They helped me recomp, but not add much muscle.
I am looking to step into the real game with a beginner 15 week Test-e cycle and to stay lean add in a 4-6 week T3 cycle.
I have experience with T3 so I feel that adding it is okay for my first AAS cycle.
If adding T3 is still advised against I will consider throwing it out.

BEFORE CYCLE:
I will be getting blood work done before starting this cycle.
I also plan on getting blood work mid cycle(week 8) and post cycle(week 23).
I plan on giving/donating blood post blood work pre cycle and also after week 8's blood work.

WEEK 1-15
test-e 500mg per week.
-250mg pinned on Monday.
-250mg pinned on Thursday.
WEEK 1-21
Some sort of AI(Aromatase Inhibitor)
-Open to suggestions I know RUI products come highly recommended, but I'd rather take this is pill form. Open to any input here though.
WEEK 1-15
Hcg 500iu per week.
-250iu pinned Monday.
-250iu pinned Thursday.
WEEK 6-10
T3 50mcg-75mcg every day.
WEEK 18-21
PCT(14 Days after last test-e pin):
Clomiphene Citrate(everyday): 50mg/50mg/50mg/50mg
Tamoxifen Citrate (everyday): 40mg/40mg/20mg/20mg


Questions:
-Some start using an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) 4-6 weeks into their cycles. Some stop when they stop pinning test. What is ideal here?
As of right now I am planning on running if from the beginning and through the end of my PCT.

-Hcg is commonly sold in 5000ui units. This is enough for a 10 week supply.
Instead of running it for 15 weeks is it okay to start on week 5 and run till week 15 or should I just get another 5000ui and waste 5 weeks of it?

-Can I get a moderator or someone with extensive knowledge to shoot me a PM to discuss other stuff?
I understand if no one is willing since my post count is basically zero.
I am prepared to "stick around the boards and makes friends.".

Seems as a good cycle (in my modest and humble opinion, giving the fact that I myself am a novis).
AS the other dudes and duddettes say, start with Aromatase inhibitor (AI) from day 1 until you hit PCT.

Now, maybe I can ask you and the others something and take the chance to learn something?
Why do you want to mess specifically with your thyroid? And I was under the notion that T3 is to use when someone wants to LOOSE fat and in combination with Anavar (and even then it is strongly recommended to stay away from it due to its high potential for complications). Your goal is to bulk up 20lbs lean muscle mass. So, its seems a bit contradictive.

Big guys!!! Comment and educate us!

 

[Zait]

whats your diet going to look like??

Calculated BMR is 1,721
TDEE = 1,721 * 1.6 = 2753.6

I choose 1.6 because it's a value between moderate and heavy activity.

Since I want the is be more of a bulk I am going add 500 calories to my TDEE.

So 2753.6 + 500 = 3253.6 calorie per day intake.

lets round to 3200 calories

40% protein = 1280 calories
40% carbs = 1280 calories
20% fats = 640 calories

Fat: 1 gram = 9 calories
Protein: 1 gram = 4 calories
Carbohydrates: 1 gram = 4 calories

So,

1280 / 4 = 320 grams of protein
1280 / 4 = 320 grams of carbs
640 /9 = ~71 grams of fats

Diet will include mostly clean food since that's what I tend to eat already.

 

[Zait]

Everything looks pretty good

Take the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) from the very first pin, till you start your PCT. Arimidex and Aromasin are the most common, research each and decide which one is better for you. RUI has great ancillaries

Get the second vial of HCG. Start it week 1, till the 4th day before PCT.

Thanks Mustang. I will do as advised.

 

[Zait]

Everything looks pretty good

Take the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) from the very first pin, till you start your PCT. Arimidex and Aromasin are the most common, research each and decide which one is better for you. RUI has great ancillaries

Get the second vial of HCG. Start it week 1, till the 4th day before PCT.

Thanks Mustang. I will do as advised. How easy is it to measure out their liquid forms? I know in the past my Clen and T3 came with a dropper pipit.

 

[Zait]

Seems as a good cycle (in my modest and humble opinion, giving the fact that I myself am a novis).
AS the other dudes and duddettes say, start with Aromatase inhibitor (AI) from day 1 until you hit PCT.

Now, maybe I can ask you and the others something and take the chance to learn something?
Why do you want to mess specifically with your thyroid? And I was under the notion that T3 is to use when someone wants to LOOSE fat and in combination with Anavar (and even then it is strongly recommended to stay away from it due to its high potential for complications). Your goal is to bulk up 20lbs lean muscle mass. So, its seems a bit contradictive.

Big guys!!! Comment and educate us!

As I under stand from readying the sticky on T3 that the only time you should take it is while on test.... Since test is the only thing strong enough to counter it's muscle wasting affects. I would also like more informed member to comment on this.

 

[3J]

excellent work my friend!!! good to see someone actually put work towards their diet!!!!

Calculated BMR is 1,721
TDEE = 1,721 * 1.6 = 2753.6

I choose 1.6 because it's a value between moderate and heavy activity.

Since I want the is be more of a bulk I am going add 500 calories to my TDEE.

So 2753.6 + 500 = 3253.6 calorie per day intake.

lets round to 3200 calories

40% protein = 1280 calories
40% carbs = 1280 calories
20% fats = 640 calories

Fat: 1 gram = 9 calories
Protein: 1 gram = 4 calories
Carbohydrates: 1 gram = 4 calories

So,

1280 / 4 = 320 grams of protein
1280 / 4 = 320 grams of carbs
640 /9 = ~71 grams of fats

Diet will include mostly clean food since that's what I tend to eat already.

 

[Zait]

For those of you who do decide to send me a PM:

I don't have enough posts to respond so just PM me with your email and we can communicate that way.

Thanks!

 

[3J]

that's borderline breaking the rules my man.. also your asking to get scammed with the way you are doing it.. be careful

For those of you who do decide to send me a PM:

I don't have enough posts to respond so just PM me with your email and we can communicate that way.

Thanks!

 

[Zait]

that's borderline breaking the rules my man.. also your asking to get scammed with the way you are doing it.. be careful

Thanks for the heads up. I will just cruise the boards and get my post count up. Do it the old fashioned way. I have not problems with that.

 

[Zait]

For my Aromatase inhibitor (AI) I am thinking about going with:

Aromasin
specifically LIQUID STANE 30ML 25MG/ML from RUI

I will be dosing it at 12.5mg/0.5ml every day.

Starting Week 1 and going to Week 17(more specifically 4 days before my PCT starts as suggested by MustangDX).

Question:

How do you guys take this in liquid form? Do you draw up 0.5ml in a syringe and squirt it into your mouth?

 

[kevib101]

Looks like a good cycle and the diet is on point. Good job!

 

[Fresh2death]

Yep. Just draw the amount with the oral syringe that comes with it and shoot it into your mouth

 

[Zait]

Yep. Just draw the amount with the oral syringe that comes with it and shoot it into your mouth

Thank you!

 

[MustangDX]

For my Aromatase inhibitor (AI) I am thinking about going with:

Aromasin
specifically LIQUID STANE 30ML 25MG/ML from RUI

I will be dosing it at 12.5mg/0.5ml every day.

Starting Week 1 and going to Week 17(more specifically 4 days before my PCT starts as suggested by MustangDX).Question:

How do you guys take this in liquid form? Do you draw up 0.5ml in a syringe and squirt it into your mouth?

That advice was meant for HCG not the AI...

I'll break it down again: Take the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) starting from the very first pin until the day before you start PCT. Take the HCG starting week 1, until the 4th day before PCT.

Also, just squirt the measured amount of liquid into your mouth from the dropper and drink it. Simple as that...

 

[Zait]

That advice was meant for HCG not the AI...

I'll break it down again: Take the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) starting from the very first pin until the day before you start PCT. Take the HCG starting week 1, until the 4th day before PCT.

Also, just squirt the measured amount of liquid into your mouth from the dropper and drink it. Simple as that...

Got it. Thanks for clarifying.

 

[Zait]

I see that RUIs LIQUID CLOMI 70ML 35MG/ML
is dosed at 35mg/ml

would it be okay to run it like 70/70/35/35 instead of 40/40/20/20 for the easy factor?