First cycle question after competing naturally for a few years

[adam6923]

Greetings everyone, I have, like many others, been a long time lurker and consider this the best source of information for athletes looking to reach the next level. With that being said, there are two shows coming up (one in august, one in september) that I am considering doing. I did the one in august of last year at 6'3" 227lbs. I am hoping to compete this year at 235-240. I have never taken a pro-hormone or AAS before, however in the interest of full disclosure I have taken oral clen with fantastic results. Additionally, I am aware that the baseline recommendation here is to do test alone for your first cycle, but I have spoken with a few friends and decided to risk it.

Diet

• About 2200 kcal/day
• 300-350g protein, depending on rest/lift day
• Mostly CKD (whole wheat pasta on friday night and saturday morning)
• protein comes from chicken, steak, and a ton of egg whites. I have a lot of issues with fish.

Prospective 10-Week Cycle

• Weeks 1-4: Methan10 (dbol) 40mg/day
• Weeks 1-10: Test-Cyp 500mg/week
• Weeks 1-11: Arimidex .5mg/day

For post cycle therapy (pct), I am planning on running 4 weeks of Nolva 20mg/day starting 2 weeks from my last test injection.
I have planned out my pins/injection sites according to the website recommended in the sticky, but I have a few questions left.

Questions:

• For at least part of the cycle, I want to add T3/Clen and maybe Ketotifen. Is this a no-no? Do I need to do 2 weeks on/off? Recommended dosage for T3/day for first time user?
• I'm a firm believer in "don't fix what is not broken," but should I change my workout/cardio plan while on AAS?
• Is my PCT enough? I read that you should keep nolva on hand in case you get side during the cycle, as well as the 'early warning signs,' but if that is the case do I just take the nolva until the sides are gone or continue it for the remainder of the cycle?

Lastly, I am sure some of you will recommend I switch to test-prop EOD for the short esthers, but that is not currently an option for me.

I really appreciate any assistance you can give me and promise contest pics if everything goes well.

 

[cool dude]

It seems you've done some homework! What I wld do is extend the cycle to 12 wks. The arimidex seems a bit too much (ed) but we're all different. Thing is u, at this point don't know how u handle estro so I wld play around with that some, like maybe start with the min. eod or e3d and dial in from there. After ur done with the d bol u may not need it at all with the test dose u r using.Remember AIs play hard with ur lipids. For PCT I wld do clomid 100/100/50/50 and nolva 40/40/20/20. I would also probably add hcg 500 2x/wk for the 2 wks before post cycle therapy (pct). Brother, my opinion on T3 is unless u r competing and u need that razors edge then that is the only time I wld play around with that fire and then only after blood work to determine if u shld even consider it. I know some will flame me for that but thats just me. I dont quite understand your point on the short esters. As far as your cardio I dont know what your present program is with that but this is NOT a cutting cycle LOL so you still want to keep doing your cardio but maybe keep it to 3-4 x /wk.
Please keep in mind there are many different PCT protocols all with some validity somewhere in them. All the above is based on my experience and knowledge gained through time. I personally dont do pct anymore as I just go back to cruising. I hope that gave u some food for thought . Good luck man

 

[adam6923]

Thanks for the advice. I'm not really looking at it as a 'cutting cycle' as per DADAWG's comments:
steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/608170-ultimate-cutting-cycle-test-prop-tren-ace-anavar-clen.html#post2880137

I'm just trying to build up a small amount or hold on to what I have
As for the arimidex, what would happen if you take a little bit too much each day?

 

[cool dude]

Thanks for the advice. I'm not really looking at it as a 'cutting cycle' as per DADAWG's comments:
steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/608170-ultimate-cutting-cycle-test-prop-tren-ace-anavar-clen.html#post2880137

I'm just trying to build up a small amount or hold on to what I have
As for the arimidex, what would happen if you take a little bit too much each day?

Well the problem with taking too much AIs is that your body needs estro to grow muscle so by taking too much Aromatase inhibitor (AI) u are completely shutting down estro production and thus slowing the muscle bldg. system. U know maybe what u might want to look into is Turinabol and run it a lil longer like maybe 6 weeks instead of the 4. T bol will give u a much leaner mass. Its like dbol without aromatization. If u run tbol u probably wont need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) at all but always make sure u have it on hand in case.

 

[Teutonic]

agreed..repped

 

[H 3 L L S M A N]

Greetings everyone, I have, like many others, been a long time lurker and consider this the best source of information for athletes looking to reach the next level. With that being said, there are two shows coming up (one in august, one in september) that I am considering doing. I did the one in august of last year at 6'3" 227lbs. I am hoping to compete this year at 235-240. I have never taken a pro-hormone or AAS before, however in the interest of full disclosure I have taken oral clen with fantastic results. Additionally, I am aware that the baseline recommendation here is to do test alone for your first cycle, but I have spoken with a few friends and decided to risk it.

Diet

• About 2200 kcal/day
• 300-350g protein, depending on rest/lift day
• Mostly CKD (whole wheat pasta on friday night and saturday morning)
• protein comes from chicken, steak, and a ton of egg whites. I have a lot of issues with fish.

Prospective 10-Week Cycle

• Weeks 1-4: Methan10 (dbol) 40mg/day
• Weeks 1-10: Test-Cyp 500mg/week
• Weeks 1-11: Arimidex .5mg/day

For post cycle therapy (pct), I am planning on running 4 weeks of Nolva 20mg/day starting 2 weeks from my last test injection.
I have planned out my pins/injection sites according to the website recommended in the sticky, but I have a few questions left.

Questions:

• For at least part of the cycle, I want to add T3/Clen and maybe Ketotifen. Is this a no-no? Do I need to do 2 weeks on/off? Recommended dosage for T3/day for first time user?
• I'm a firm believer in "don't fix what is not broken," but should I change my workout/cardio plan while on AAS?
• Is my post cycle therapy (pct) enough? I read that you should keep nolva on hand in case you get side during the cycle, as well as the 'early warning signs,' but if that is the case do I just take the nolva until the sides are gone or continue it for the remainder of the cycle?

Lastly, I am sure some of you will recommend I switch to test-prop EOD for the short esthers, but that is not currently an option for me.

I really appreciate any assistance you can give me and promise contest pics if everything goes well.

Wow, great first post and good research, looks good to me along with the other comments. Rep point given.

 

[cool dude]

agreed..repped

Thanks brother

 

[mispronounced]

Are you sure about your calories? 2200 seems pretty low, I could cut on that and I'm nowhere near your size. You seem like you know what you're doing though, so if that's what works for you, go for it man. Best of luck on your cycle

 

[adam6923]

Are you sure about your calories? 2200 seems pretty low, I could cut on that and I'm nowhere near your size. You seem like you know what you're doing though, so if that's what works for you, go for it man. Best of luck on your cycle

I would love to go higher but I really struggle with losing weight to be honest. Before I started bodybuilding I did powerlifting and I could put on mass and strength like nobody's business... but when it comes to dieting I gotta go as hard as I can.