first cycle suggestion

[MikeIcon]

First post but long time lurker. I have been reading and gathering a lot of information and is now ready for my first cycle. I have all the gears in hand and will be doing a 8 weeks cycle. I have my diet and weight training in check. Been working out really hard for about 16 months now. Any suggestion on putting my first cycle together with these gears. Thanks.

Gears:
Test E
D-bol 50
HCG
Novadex
Clomid
LIV 52
ZMA

My stats:
38
5'5"
140lbs

 

[Polynikes666]

Test E alone at 500mg/wk for 10-14 weeks. Save the Dbol for later. I would even skip the Hcg for a first cycle, but there are some perfectly valid counter arguments.

Have some Aromasin on hand, just in case.

Poly

 

[MikeIcon]

Test E alone at 500mg/wk for 10-14 weeks. Save the Dbol for later. I would even skip the Hcg for a first cycle, but there are some perfectly valid counter arguments.

Have some Aromasin on hand, just in case.

Poly

With my body stats will 500mg/week be okay?

 

[Polynikes666]

With my body stats will 500mg/week be okay?

I think you'll be fine. If you are uncomfortable with the amount, a downwards adjustment of 100mg/wk or so is perfectly acceptable as well. Just don't go so low that you neglect to take advantage of the fact that your first cycle will almost always be your most effective.

Poly

 

[younggunz1985]

What you are going to take are all dependent on what you are looking to achieve. What are your goals?

 

[MikeIcon]

How does this cycle look? Inputs?

week 1-10:
test e 500mg/week

week 1-16:
nova 20mg/day

week 12-16:
clomid 50mg/day

week 9-14:
HCG 1000 i.u. every 3 days

 

[MikeIcon]

What you are going to take are all dependent on what you are looking to achieve. What are your goals?

My goal is to bulk up to around 160lbs and do a mini cut cycle then bulk cycle again. My goal is really to bulk up mainly.

 

[Cobra Strike]

What you are going to take are all dependent on what you are looking to achieve. What are your goals?

what you are going to eat will determine what you will achieve

 

[Cobra Strike]

I would def run the hcg...the only reason I think poly says not to is because hcg aromatizes and you want to know how the test effects you without the estro of hcg getting in the way and confusing you on whats causing what....I would blast 2000 iu a few times at the end of your cycle to kik start your natty test production and benefit your gains and pct...IMO though

 

[MikeIcon]

Test E alone at 500mg/wk for 10-14 weeks. Save the Dbol for later. I would even skip the Hcg for a first cycle, but there are some perfectly valid counter arguments.

Have some Aromasin on hand, just in case.

Poly

Isn't Aromasin and anti-estrogen?

 

[Cobra Strike]

Isn't Aromasin and anti-estrogen?

yes

 

[MikeIcon]

yes

So in addition to Clomid and Nova I will need to add Aromasin into my cycle? Thanks for the input.

 

[Cobra Strike]

So in addition to Clomid and Nova I will need to add Aromasin into my cycle? Thanks for the input.

You def need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand. You dont have to run it if you dont notice signs of gyno. If you start to get puffy or sore nips or find a small lump under your nipple then get on it at 12.5mg/ed and run it all the way till the end of your pct

 

[MikeIcon]

Would this be a good cycle?

week 1-10: Test e 500mg/week

week 1-10: Nova 20mg/day

post cycle therapy (pct):
week 12: Clomid 100mg/day
week 13-16: Clomid 50mg/day

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Should I run Aromasin with my post cycle therapy (pct) even if there is no sign of gyno? If so when should I run it? Thanks.

 

[UserAt204]

Test E or C at 500mg a week. Split that into 250 x 2 a week(yes even at your size). This is a great cycle and fairly mild as far as sides are concerned.

Trying to bulk, then cut immediately after is a waste IMO because you will most likely lose your gains. You need to continue to eat big after your cycle to maintain the new weight and give your body a chance to get use to it. 8 week cycles IMO are a waste. Not enough time to adjust. 12 weeks is fine.

I would blast hcg at end of cycle as well. Poly changed my mind on hcg during first cycle. Toremifene is so much better than nolva and clomid IMO but some others like it(not sure why).

 

[stiphy]

If youve been a long time lurker, then you know what kind of advice you will get here. First cycle test only. You dont need to throw a ton of other stuff in for your first cycle, youll get great results with just test.

 

[MikeIcon]

Test E or C at 500mg a week. Split that into 250 x 2 a week(yes even at your size). This is a great cycle and fairly mild as far as sides are concerned.

Trying to bulk, then cut immediately after is a waste IMO because you will most likely lose your gains. You need to continue to eat big after your cycle to maintain the new weight and give your body a chance to get use to it. 8 week cycles IMO are a waste. Not enough time to adjust. 12 weeks is fine.

I would blast Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) at end of cycle as well. Poly changed my mind on Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during first cycle. Toremifene is so much better than nolva and clomid IMO but some others like it(not sure why).

Great advice on all the above. Thanks.

 

[MikeIcon]

If youve been a long time lurker, then you know what kind of advice you will get here. First cycle test only. You dont need to throw a ton of other stuff in for your first cycle, youll get great results with just test.

First thank you for your advice. The only reason I have D-bol in hand was because I seen a lot of post saying that it will give you a much faster boost since Test e take up to 2 weeks before I can feel the effect. But then again there are plenty of post saying Test e only for first cycle is great. I guess I can save the d-bol for my second cycle.

 

[younggunz1985]

I def. Agree with cobra strike and user. Diet is 70percent of it. And bulking then cutting then bulking again i think would def be a waste of your hard work. And 12 weeks is about the average length and should give you good results diet dependent. Good luck brother hit it hard!