first cycle suggestions 25 yo amateur

[hiram1st]

You'd want to wait 6 weeks after PCT has ended. Clomid has a long half life (5-7 days) so a blood test 3 weeks after 50mg daily would still by affected by it.

Thanks for the clarification on that

 

[juced_porkchop]

so should I've taken hCG during my whole cycle???
I thought only pct was enough to replace my endogen sexual hormon

HCG is not to be used in pct. just before or during cycle.... use a SERM for pct

 

[PrinceDianabol]

okok...thx a lot everybody answered!!! I've not got my own answer, but Im trying to understand why and what I did wrong, except the fact I increased test-e dose in the middle of the cycle, that I understand is a very bullshit. I didn't know it...but, about all the rest, I dont understand what was wrong...should I have taken just testo-e and not deca??? I did it, because many others friends did it in the same way, so I followed them. For hCG during cycle, I didn't use them because I thought only PCT was enough, according to experiences of some friends.

Deca takes about 8-10 weeks to kick in at a moderate dose. You didn't even use that much, so the most you probably got out of it was a shitload of suppression and a lil extra synovial fluid in your joints.

Your test dose (for the first 7 weeks) was merely a TRT dose... All you did was shut down your natural production and replace it with pretty much the same amount.

Then you finally increased test to a decent muscle building dosage, and guess what? Test e takes around 4 weeks to peak - so your getting next to nothing out of that as well.

I'm sure you made some gains on this cycle but hopefully now you understand why this cycle was probably only 10% as effective as it could have been. And yes, you should have stuck to test only for your first cycle.

 

[OtisDriftwood]

thx buddy, now I've perfect understood what you mean.
so, starting with all the dosage since the beginning is way more convenient and efficient than upgrade dosage throughout the cycle...due to time of peaking and kicking in of the gears...I didn't know it! absolutely! during the cycle I got some gain, obviously...and some strenght too...but, according to your words, I wasted time at least for 50% of the cycle.
I save it in mind for the next cycle

Deca takes about 8-10 weeks to kick in at a moderate dose. You didn't even use that much, so the most you probably got out of it was a shitload of suppression and a lil extra synovial fluid in your joints.

Your test dose (for the first 7 weeks) was merely a TRT dose... All you did was shut down your natural production and replace it with pretty much the same amount.

Then you finally increased test to a decent muscle building dosage, and guess what? Test e takes around 4 weeks to peak - so your getting next to nothing out of that as well.

I'm sure you made some gains on this cycle but hopefully now you understand why this cycle was probably only 10% as effective as it could have been. And yes, you should have stuck to test only for your first cycle.