First Cycle was a Fail!!! Need Advice...

[punkguitarist]

So I'm 10 weeks into my first cycle of test e 500mg/week and haven't felt any different of made any gains. No increase in libido, increase in strength/size, no oily skin, no acne, no sore nips, nothing!!!

So I thought for sure my gear was fake, so I got two blood tests done about 3 weeks apart, and tests for total testosterone showed "greater than 1500."

My diet was spot on as well. I was eating 4000 calories a day with 400 grams of protein and measuring out and keeping track of everything I ate.

So I need some advice for my next cycle because I don't want to put in the money and effort and still not gain shit.


I was thinking of bumping the test e up to 750mg/week to see if I get a response out of that along with some dbol for the first 4-6 weeks.

Do you think this woudl be a good idea? Any other suggestions?

This probably doesn't make a difference but I am on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) 150mg of test e a week

 

[Don71]

How old are you? Because I know when I had my test levels checked before I did my first cycle it was 1,100 and I'm 40 yrs old. You def should have started feeling something by week 3 or 4 IE: constant hard ons, night sweats, increased app, less recovery time (meaning not sore for very long). Maybe its because you're only doing one single Ester of Test. Look into Test 400 it's the bomb but it's painful. I won't lie to you. I'm taking T400 along with Decca 300 and I stack the 2 twice a week and it's basicly pain free. I do 1.5 cc of test and 1 cc of Decca on Sunday evening and again the same injection on Wednesday evening.

 

[punkguitarist]

I'm on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and my levels are usually around 650-800

 

[Polynikes666]

Interesting. Ive got a couple of quick questions for you. What was you free test at? If you have high total T, but low free T, then the problem could be metabolic. What, if any, AI's were you using? Squashing E levels to nil can severely hamper gains. Did your body composition change at all?

Poly

 

[punkguitarist]

I didn't test my free test because I had to pay for all of these labs out of pocket, and free test would cost twice as much to test as total.

However, whenever I've gotten my free test checked while on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), it has always been in the high range. So I don't think theres a metabolic condition.

And no, I didnt take any AI's while on this cycle, although I did have some on hand in case I had any issues. I have noticed a very slight change in body composition (a LITTLE bit leaner), but I also started following a carb cycling diet when starting this cycle so its probably more from that (although I was still eating 500 + calories over maintence).

 

[tootie]

Pretty sure you're exaggerating how perfect everything was if you made no gains whatsoever..i could eat nothing but protein shakes and brownies on test E and gain muscle

 

[punkguitarist]

Pretty sure you're exaggerating how perfect everything was if you made no gains whatsoever..i could eat nothing but protein shakes and brownies on test E and gain muscle

Not at all. I weigh my food out and eat the same food everyday.

The fact that you said you could eat brownies and protein shakes and still gain muscle shows that there must be something wrong since I didnt gain shit.

 

[tootie]

Not at all. I weigh my food out and eat the same food everyday.

The fact that you said you could eat brownies and protein shakes and still gain muscle shows that there must be something wrong since I didnt gain shit.

yes terribly wrong lol

 

[fleverglades]

dude - i gained 20 pounds on that cycle in 2 months - something is definately not right. 1500 total test levels is a little low for a good cycle - I'd up the dosage to get your test above 2000.

 

[Die$eL~Man]

what brand ? maybe it was beat

 

[JOEYTHEJEW]

how's your thyroid? just curious...I have low thyroid and take synthroid...wondered if that can hinder gains one cycle as well...

 

[Polynikes666]

Joey,

Good catch. I had forgotten about thyroid considerations.

Poly

 

[rbkjitsu22]

I always say keep it simple..You either dont eat enouph or are missing one of the big three in your diet, protien, fat, carbs..Or you have bunk gear. I would start with the gear bro. Also are you still taking your testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose or have you stoped completley?