First cycle with test p; need help on dosage and PCT.

[MrHgSSK7]

So I have 4-10 ml vials of dragon pharm test prop and I was needing help to make sure I get the correct dosage. I also already have nolvadex on hand for post cycle therapy (pct) (30 capsules @ 20 mg/ea) as well as 5000 iu of HCG. With this being my first cycle I just want to test the waters out and see what gains I can get but not go too crazy. My stats are as follows:
age: 23
height: 6'4"
weight: 240-245 lbs
BF%: 12-15
My overall goal is to just gain more mass than what I have naturally as I started at 205 7 months ago. My diet is pretty clean for the most part with oatmeal being my main source of carbs and beef, chicken, and tuna as my main source of protein eating around 6 meals a day. Any help is appreciated.

 

[justin h]

Don't forget your AI...and not sure if you have already but check out all the stickys..You'll gain a ton of "gear" knowledge

 

[SonOfZeu$]

THe dose should be on the bottom of the bottle, run 100-150mg EOD, have an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand as stated on top.
post cycle therapy (pct) outlook should be clomid 100/100/50/50 and nolva 40/40/20/20. Start post cycle therapy (pct) 3-7 days after last shot, if you feel like your empty on your test on day 3 then start, otherwise start on day 7 so its for sure completely out. ( You'll know when your out ). Good uck bro

 

[MrHgSSK7]

Ok thank you, I will definitely get some clomid and more nolva as well as an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Do I want to take the clomid and nolva everyday at those dosages for those weeks? When should I take the Aromatase inhibitor (AI), if I start having symptoms of gyno? and at what dosage? would Exemestane be good for the AI?

 

[China_Wall]

I'm guessing your propionate is 100mg/ml... so... if u run 150mg eod (1.5ml) , approx 500mg per week, u have enough for just over 7 weeks which is not really long enough for a first cycle in my mind. As mentioned above u should have an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to run alongside your test, arimidex is best, 0.5-1mg eod up until a couple days before PCT begins.

And why test propionate?? u are gonna get sick of the eod injections. Test enanthate or cypionate would be much more comfortable options as u could inject just once or twice per week.

If ur dead-set on the propionate, get one more 10ml vial and just run 1.5ml eod until the gear is gone... wait a week, then start PCT (if nolva on it's own I would say u need 40mg per day, if with clomid run it - clomid 50mg/nolva 30mg ed for 30 days)

 

[SonOfZeu$]

Ok thank you, I will definitely get some clomid and more nolva as well as an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Do I want to take the clomid and nolva everyday at those dosages for those weeks? When should I take the Aromatase inhibitor (AI), if I start having symptoms of gyno? and at what dosage? would Exemestane be good for the AI?

As the other guy said on top with the post cycle therapy (pct), Just run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) EOD 50mcg liquiddex to be safe, if not the start running it once you feel itchy nipples and a small pea size ball asap. Run your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) a week before your last week of PCT.

 

[MrHgSSK7]

I'm guessing your propionate is 100mg/ml... so... if u run 150mg eod (1.5ml) , approx 500mg per week, u have enough for just over 7 weeks which is not really long enough for a first cycle in my mind. As mentioned above u should have an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to run alongside your test, arimidex is best, 0.5-1mg eod up until a couple days before post cycle therapy (pct) begins.

And why test propionate?? u are gonna get sick of the eod injections. Test enanthate or cypionate would be much more comfortable options as u could inject just once or twice per week.

If ur dead-set on the propionate, get one more 10ml vial and just run 1.5ml eod until the gear is gone... wait a week, then start post cycle therapy (pct) (if nolva on it's own I would say u need 40mg per day, if with clomid run it - clomid 50mg/nolva 30mg ed for 30 days)

Yes it is 100mg/ml. I chose test prop because it has more test than test e and test cyp. I understand I have to inject more frequently but I'm ok with that. I will get another vial prior to starting and run 1.5 ml eod and apply the post cycle therapy (pct) as well as Aromatase inhibitor (AI) as stated above. Why would I need to run 2 different serm's for post cycle therapy (pct) though?

 

[MrHgSSK7]

I'm guessing your propionate is 100mg/ml... so... if u run 150mg eod (1.5ml) , approx 500mg per week, u have enough for just over 7 weeks which is not really long enough for a first cycle in my mind. As mentioned above u should have an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to run alongside your test, arimidex is best, 0.5-1mg eod up until a couple days before post cycle therapy (pct) begins.

And why test propionate?? u are gonna get sick of the eod injections. Test enanthate or cypionate would be much more comfortable options as u could inject just once or twice per week.

If ur dead-set on the propionate, get one more 10ml vial and just run 1.5ml eod until the gear is gone... wait a week, then start post cycle therapy (pct) (if nolva on it's own I would say u need 40mg per day, if with clomid run it - clomid 50mg/nolva 30mg ed for 30 days)

Yes it is 100mg/ml. I chose test prop because it has more test than test e and test cyp. I understand I have to inject more frequently but I'm ok with that. I will get another vial prior to starting and run 1.5 ml eod and apply the post cycle therapy (pct) as well as Aromatase inhibitor (AI) as stated above. Why would I need to run 2 different serm's for post cycle therapy (pct) though?

 

[China_Wall]

Yes it is 100mg/ml. I chose test prop because it has more test than test e and test cyp. I understand I have to inject more frequently but I'm ok with that. I will get another vial prior to starting and run 1.5 ml eod and apply the post cycle therapy (pct) as well as Aromatase inhibitor (AI) as stated above. Why would I need to run 2 different serm's for post cycle therapy (pct) though?

first... test prop DOES NOT have more TEST in it than TEST E or TEST C... the amount difference is miniscule, nobody on earth could tell the difference (also... test prop is the MUCH more PAINFUL to inject compared to test e or c, on test suspension is more brutal)

second... run the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) from day 1, do NOT wait til symtoms of bloating or itchy nipples occur (prevent the fire from starting instead of trying to fight it)

lastly... u should run clomid with the nolva because it's been proven more effective that way, no other reason

 

[MrHgSSK7]

first... test prop DOES NOT have more TEST in it than TEST E or TEST C... the amount difference is miniscule, nobody on earth could tell the difference (also... test prop is the MUCH more PAINFUL to inject compared to test e or c, on test suspension is more brutal)

second... run the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) from day 1, do NOT wait til symtoms of bloating or itchy nipples occur (prevent the fire from starting instead of trying to fight it)

lastly... u should run clomid with the nolva because it's been proven more effective that way, no other reason

Ok note taken. Well it's too late to change my cycle since I already have my test prop but I will try either enth or cyp next cycle and maybe use some dianabol or anadrol to jump start the cycle. thank you for the post cycle therapy (pct) information I will take it and use it. Will I be able to maintain my gains when I come off cycle or should I expect to lose them?

 

[MN87]

I chose prop for my first cycle and am 5 weeks in and stand by my decision 100%. Sure it hurts but so what, you learn to deal with it. In and out of my system in a matter of days, so it kicks faster and is also invariably quicker to respond when I decide I need to make changes, if I do.