First Injectable Cylce (Test E + Dbol/Var)

[ivgotmilk]

Hey everyone,

Done 2 cycles of Dbol only (not ideal i know that, so i'm throwing in some Test this time round).

Was just hoping for someone to give me some advice for my first proper cycle.

It is as follows

10 weeks (15 including PCT)

-Test E 300 x 2 / week for Week 1-10
-Dbol/ Anavar ED Week 1-5
-HCG 250iu x 2 week, week 1-10
-Letrozole 1.25mg EOD week 1-10

PCT Starts 2 weeks after last pin

-Clomid 100/50/50
- Nolva 40/20/20 (Do i need this if I have been using Letro?)


Questions -

Not sure if I want to run Dbol or Var with the test to start with, what do you guys think?

Do I really need all these things or could I leave the nolva?

 

[Milton]

Welcome to the boards.

 

[ivgotmilk]

Welcome to the boards.

Thanks!

 

[3J]

1. you have absolutely NO NEED to run letro on a cycle like this.. running adex at .5mg eod is more than sufficient! do not run letro! its massive overkill!!

2. youre gonna run dbol and var at the same time?? why?? run the dbol at the start of cycle, run var at the end.. i would run var from weeks 8-12 (as you wait to start pct and still have test in your system the last two weeks) or as you stated run one or the other, what are your goals with this cycle???

what are your stats?
age
weight
height
current bodyfat

 

[ivgotmilk]

1. you have absolutely NO NEED to run letro on a cycle like this.. running adex at .5mg eod is more than sufficient! do not run letro! its massive overkill!!

2. youre gonna run dbol and var at the same time?? why?? run the dbol at the start of cycle, run var at the end.. i would run var from weeks 8-12 (as you wait to start pct and still have test in your system the last two weeks) or as you stated run one or the other, what are your goals with this cycle???

what are your stats?
age
weight
height
current bodyfat

Not together!! It was either Var or Dbol

I'm guessing most people won't use Var as a kickstarter, rather an end of cycle blast?

Goals are to add 10-20lbs (not sure what's more realistic).

I'm 170lbs, 5'10, 23 y/o . Lifting for 4 years and have gone from 132lbs to 170lb naturally bar the dbol cycle which I kept 9lbs of.

Thanks for your reply!

 

[ivgotmilk]

also my bodyfat has gone from 9% to 13% over the 4 years and I'm looking to get to around 9-10% again by the end of the cycle

 

[Milton]

Not together!! It was either Var or Dbol

I'm guessing most people won't use Var as a kickstarter, rather an end of cycle blast?

Goals are to add 10-20lbs (not sure what's more realistic).

I'm 170lbs, 5'10, 23 y/o . Lifting for 4 years and have gone from 132lbs to 170lb naturally bar the dbol cycle which I kept 9lbs of.

Thanks for your reply!

What was your diet throughout all of this?

 

[ivgotmilk]

What was your diet throughout all of this?

Not as strict as it could've been. Was dirty bulking through most of it, eating clean and dirty. Only in the last year has this approach actually added unwanted bf to my lower back and lower torso.

Keep my protein intake around 150g per day. Fill the rest of the macros with carbs and about 20% of them fats.

Gradually been increasing the calories and have only recently decided to cut back on sugar and white breads/ pastas. Have dropped roughly 1% bf in the last month!

Do you think I should stay natty for a while longer?

 

[3J]

150g protein?? thats it??

what was your total caloric intake in the day?

Not as strict as it could've been. Was dirty bulking through most of it, eating clean and dirty. Only in the last year has this approach actually added unwanted bf to my lower back and lower torso.

Keep my protein intake around 150g per day. Fill the rest of the macros with carbs and about 20% of them fats.

Gradually been increasing the calories and have only recently decided to cut back on sugar and white breads/ pastas. Have dropped roughly 1% bf in the last month!

Do you think I should stay natty for a while longer?

 

[Milton]

Eat more for sure, get more of everything into you. The stricter the better if you really want to reach your goals.

 

[ivgotmilk]

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