First test e cycle advice

Fireguy8971

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First test e cycle

I will be starting my first test e cycle in 4 weeks plenty of time to stock up on what I need to get befor cycle begins.

28 y.o. M
255 lbs
6 ft 1in
BF 15%-20% (I am cutting for the next 4weeks)
2 1/2 years serious lifting after being a bum for 3 years

Goal put on a fair amount of muscle mass and keep body fat the same and if possible drop 5 lbs of fat

Cycle 14 weeks
Test e 600 mg (300 mg Monday & Thursday)
Arimidex 0.5 EOD (I got some gyno from a ph cycle years ago)
HCG for the 2 weeks after last pin till PCT
PCT Clomid

Extras
Milk thistle
Multi vitamin
Bp liver insulin support
Bcaa's
Glutamine

Diet
Training day
Meal 1 -2 cup oatmeal 4 whole eggs
Meal 2 -2 10 egg whites 1 scoop whey 1cp oatmeal 1banana 1tablespoon peanut butter smoothie
Meal 3 and 4- 1cup of rice 6 oz of chicken
Meal 5- 2 scoops whey 2 oz almonds
Meal 6-8 oz sweet potato 8 oz asparagus 6 egg whites 6 oz of chicken
Meal 7-1 scoop casien 1 cup cottage cheese
About 4-8 oz spinach eaten thought the day
Total 3730 calories 402g protein 68 g fat 408 g carbs

Non-training
Meal 1-1 1/2 cups oatmeal 10 egg whites two whole eggs
Meal 2-4 oz spinach 2 oz almonds
Meal 3-8 oz chicken 3/4 cup of rice
Meal 4-8 oz chicken 3/4 cup of rice
Meal 5-20Z spinach to Oz almonds 10 0Z sweet potato
Meal 6-8 oz steak 12 oz asparagus
Meal 7- 1 casien 1 cup cottage cheese
Total 3580 calories 117 g fat 371 G protein 208 g carbs

Carbs that are from grains (oatmeal and rice) are going to be consumed before lifting.

I eat jasmine rice I'm not opposed to brown rice jasmine just is higher in carbs low in fat

For now I'll add a few eggs and chicken breast as I see fit after the first 2 or so weeks may get up to 4200-4500 calories a day. I'd like to make lean gains reason for the cardio

Training split is
day 1 chest and tri 30 min HIIT cardio
Day 2 legs and abs 30 min steady cardio
Day 3 back and biceps 30 min HIIT cardio
Day 4 shoulders and abs 30 min HIIT cardio
Day 5 active rest/yoga and 30-60 min cardio

(May do every other or every third day fasting cardio at 30-40 min 120-150 beats per minute)

Say what you will about yoga but it is great part of the whole package strength, look good, flexible, and getting huge is pointless if you can't wipe your own ass lol

Questions maybe y'all can answer

My pecs are lagging in size compaired to my arms and legs my chest sucks. Should I hit chest every 3rd day to really develop it thru this cycle?

Do you think I could throw on 20-25 lbs mass and drop 5 lbs fat. (I know everyone says focus on cutting or gaining). I just didn't know if test e would change that a bit.

So please have at it if you think I'm doing something wrong tell me and I'll take it into consideration. If you think I can tweak something I will.
 
I will know that in a few days my guy placed the order and he gets back from vacation in 5-6 days.
Has anyone done this pre load? Shooting 1 g in the first week to kick start everything or would I be fine since I'm doing a 14 week cycle
 
I will know that in a few days my guy placed the order and he gets back from vacation in 5-6 days.
Has anyone done this pre load? Shooting 1 g in the first week to kick start everything or would I be fine since I'm doing a 14 week cycle

If thi is your first cycle I advise against front loading.
 
Thanks tbonexl. . . I'll give it a good look thank you so Ralph or nolva will help it from getting worse or could it possible help to reverse it
 
Ok I have heard little about it but all of them were guys who had several cycles under there belt

I just posted in a thread with somebody who has a few "cycles" under his belt too. What a train wreck. Just because somebody uses gear, doesn't mean they know what they're doing. I have nothing to gain or lose here. All I can do is give advice...
 
I just posted in a thread with somebody who has a few "cycles" under his belt too. What a train wreck. Just because somebody uses gear, doesn't mean they know what they're doing. I have nothing to gain or lose here. All I can do is give advice...

No I completely understand I figured 600 mg for 14 weeks I will see pretty decent results with out that big load up the first week. Thank you
 
I know it is within that range. I am checking it every Tursday and Friday in the morning when I wake up on an empty stomach. Right now I'm at 20% and I'm hoping in the next four weeks I can drop 8 pounds at least getting me to 17% or 18%
 
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What do you guys think about me training chest and every third day since it's the main body part that lags behind in development
 
What do you guys think about me training chest and every third day since it's the main body part that lags behind in development

There is no issue with this. Your chest should be fully heal with two days rest between sessions. Its also ok to train it if its a tad sore as well. Use your judgement though. If its still quite tender then I wouldnt train it.
 
There is no issue with this. Your chest should be fully heal with two days rest between sessions. Its also ok to train it if its a tad sore as well. Use your judgement though. If its still quite tender then I wouldnt train it.

id be more concerned with tendon/lig issues than muscle recovery

make sure youre not going up on your max too quickly

its a formula for ac joint and rotator cuff injuries
 
Will do thanks for the tips I'll keep my original 5 day split for 3-5 weeks then may dabble after a few weeks when the test e starts adding mass. because I also need to feel out and see how many calories I need to be taking in.
 
Just going to throw this out there. Adex works well as an AI but when you come off it at the end of your cycle it will release all the E2 it has bound up in our system. A lot of guys get a real shitty feeling from that and clomid while the PCT is going.

I would reccomend finding some Exemstane(aromison) and use that the last few weeks of your cycle. It kills E2 instead of binding it so there isnt any "adex rebound". Just an idea.
 
id be more concerned with tendon/lig issues than muscle recovery

make sure youre not going up on your max too quickly

its a formula for ac joint and rotator cuff injuries

I agree. If I were to train a muscle group every three days, or twice a week. I would do a low volume heavy day and then a lighter high volume day. I would do them in that order as well.

Even training a muscle group once a week I think its beneficial to switch things up like that. Heavy, heavy, heavy all the time is recipe for exactly what your saying.
 
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