First Test E Cycle, + Possibly Var

getripped111

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I've been lifting for about 3-4 years now. Down to about 155lbs at 7-8% BF, 5'8. Anyways, diet is in check -- no worries about that. Just a bit of confusion on my cycle. For workouts should I do strong lifts 5x5? I was thinking about doing this to maximize strength as well as get a bit bigger while on the test. (Strong lifts 5x5 is Workout 3 days, compounds everyday and squats everyday)

My cycle will be Test - E @ 500mg/Week for 12 weeks
I will take 12.5 Aromasin ED
The last 10 days of the cycle I will take Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 500iu/day for 10 days.
After this, I will start PCT of Clomid at 50/50/50/50 + Nolva at 40/40/20/20.

I just need a bit of help with this cycle, it's my first one. Also, it's shunned but I was wondering if I could potentially throw in some var?

My Current Lifts:
Squat: 275x5 --> Lacking a lot
Bench: 235x5
Deadlift: 365x5

PS: I've attached a pic of how I currently look like, this is at 155lbs.



Thanks,
Greatly Appreciated.
 
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ya man your cycle looks on point I think if you feel good by week 8 with no problems you can add some var in from week 8 to week 15 ending one day before pct starts
 
most will tell you dont weigh enough for gear or you should do just test first cycle which is all true by the way, but let be real your going to do it anyway so do it right bro You look like your in good shape no homo go get that shit bro!!
 
most will tell you dont weigh enough for gear or you should do just test first cycle which is all true by the way, but let be real your going to do it anyway so do it right bro You look like your in good shape no homo go get that shit bro!!

Thanks, But I'll probably end up holding off until I get to 170lbs at least. Just gathering information right now for my first cycle.
 
that would be a smart move your no dumbass kid


you look good, you will look great. You took some time and read which is always commended around here. At 155lb 7-8% i think your good to rock man. Fact of the matter i have not seen many guys if any achieve 5'8 170 lb 7-8 % naturally. Just my 2 cents
 
Look good but I don't thinku need Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during cycle unless u need I would add the var towards the end that way u will start cutting of. Other than that u look good n will add some quality mass to your frame just hit it hard brother.
 
Look good but I don't thinku need Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during cycle unless u need I would add the var towards the end that way u will start cutting of. Other than that u look good n will add some quality mass to your frame just hit it hard brother.

Well the goal is to bulk up naturally to 170lbs then run the cycle and hopefully hit 185-190lbs. After that cut, with either clen or EC down to 175lbs lean. I was thinking if i did Clen I should probably hold off var till I cut with it, or with EC. But we'll see. The main goal is at least 170-175lbs lean.
 
Look good but I don't thinku need Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during cycle unless u need I would add the var towards the end that way u will start cutting of. Other than that u look good n will add some quality mass to your frame just hit it hard brother.

why do you say he doesnt need an AI...Hes using test it converts to estrogen,this is the second time im catching u giving out some bullshit advice
 
Look good but I don't thinku need Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during cycle unless u need I would add the var towards the end that way u will start cutting of. Other than that u look good n will add some quality mass to your frame just hit it hard brother.

Why wait to see sides or bloat if you can prevent it??? Aromatase inhibitor (AI) should be part of evry cycle when Test is use, Come on bro if you do it that way doesn`t mean others has to do the same as you. Let ppl do it right.
 
Bump on opinions on saving var for a clen or ECA cut cycle after bulk
Ok

U could just run test cycle and see how you react, and do one thing at a time as far as planning a lean or a bulk cycle ... since Clen will not shut you down you can run it later on after your post cycle therapy (pct) is complete If you feel you are too bulky ( I dont like idea of using it during post cycle therapy (pct), although some guys do i think you will loose muscle not just fat)...

However, based on your genetics (pic) I think you can get away with running the test with var to get good clean lean muscle gains and no immediate need for clen :

You should def. stick with your plan to run Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like my boys told you, eat clean, low salt, plenty water, and if you like add var at end of cycle with help with converting your Test gains into being lean and keeping them after cycle .
 
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Ok

U could just run test cycle and see how you react, and do one thing at a time as far as planning a lean or a bulk cycle ... since Clen will not shut you down you can run it later on after your post cycle therapy (pct) is complete If you feel you are too bulky ( I dont like idea of using it during post cycle therapy (pct), although some guys do i think you will loose muscle not just fat)...

However, based on your genetics (pic) I think you can get away with running the test with var to get good clean lean muscle gains and no immediate need for clen :

You should def. stick with your plan to run Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like my boys told you, eat clean, low salt, plenty water, and if you like add var at end of cycle with help with converting your Test gains into being lean and keeping them after cycle .

^^^ this right here is clear as water, can`t get better advice bro.
 
I never said u don't need it. Yes I know it's needed for post cycle therapy (pct) or incase u see sides during the cycle.it like taking pain killers with out any pain brother.i ant the only one that think like this on this forum. Not every body retains water or gets bitch tits. C'mon don't start shit man it's my opinion...not everybody is the same remember that.. Yes u do need an ai.
 
I never said u don't need it. Yes I know it's needed for pct or incase u see sides during the cycle.it like taking pain killers with out any pain brother.i ant the only one that think like this on this forum. Not every body retains water or gets bitch tits. C'mon don't start shit man it's my opinion...not everybody is the same remember that.. Yes u do need an ai.

I have not start SHIT!!! is your opinion fine with it, the SHIT!!! was unnecessary. Hope he listens to you, looks you know what you talking about. So I wont` said nothing else.
 
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