First test enanthate and Winny cycle

[TheWolverine]

Hi guys I am 22 years old with no experience of Anabolics, I am 5.11 with 82 KGS weight. I am in my 12th week of my 1st cycle. I am taking test enanthate from eminence labs at 500mg/week and I added oral winstrol tablets into my cycle at 50mg/day from 7th week. I was 78 KGS when I started my cycle and I only wanted to add some lean mass without adding fat and wanted to decrease my body fat. So far I think I have been successful in doing so, I will be doing a 10 day blast of hcg at 500 iu per day for 10 days after my last test pin and after 4 days of that I will be starting pct with clomid and nolva for 4 weeks. I have had no side effects during the cycle except some sleepless nights. So guys just wanted to make sure that was my cycle gud enough and did I make gud gains?
And 1 more question is that shud I add tren to my 2nd cycle?

Thank u guys in advance! ***128512;

 

[bigben66]

First of all you shouldn't be cycling at 22 years of age.

Your natural Test levels are at their peak, the fact that you have taken this route will only backfire further down the line.

Secondly, in answer to your question about Tren.

No, keep it for your 10th cycle.

 

[TheWolverine]

Thanks for the reply brother .
I wanted to ask that do u find my cycle successful?
I have had slight gains in size and strength has also increased a bit and my weight was 78 when I started and right now its 82. I have been eating clean throughout my cycle with a lot of protein intake.

 

[Roush]

you say you've had 'no sides' for this cycle except sleeplessness. have you gotten blood work done ? You may have sides that you don't 'feel' or know about. have you been running an AI ? the 4 kg of weight gain could easily just be water weight and bloat, not that 4 kg is a lot of weight gained for 12 weeks.
do Pct, get your estrogen under control, strip the water weight, and see where you end up . then you'll know if your cycle was successful or not (the mirror is a better gauge then the weight scale)

 

[bigben66]

I wanted to ask that do u find my cycle successful?.

4kgs for a cycle is not overly successful.

But to be honest, I'd gauge true success on whether you can get your natural T levels back to your baseline (I'm presuming you have a baseline from pre-cycle bloods!)

Here's hoping you can get a hard-on post-cycle brother.... otherwise you've risked a heck of a lot for those 4kgs!

 

[gh0st]

Why why why do ppl always want to jump right into tren. and so young also. Brother lift natural for five years after you turn 21....then do a test only cycle for ur first cycle. best advie i could give. but to late for that.

trust me.dont be a crash dummie. this is from personal experience. i wish i could go back to 25 and not have ran a cycle so soon

 

[TheWolverine]

Thank u everyone for your valuable time and advice. In the mirror I can definitely see a lot of change and I did my testosterone lab test when I was in my 7th week and the results were 1131 ng/DL. I will be doing pct and will keep my progress posted. Thanks again.

 

[bigben66]

Thank u everyone for your valuable time and advice. In the mirror I can definitely see a lot of change and I did my testosterone lab test when I was in my 7th week and the results were 1131 ng/DL. I will be doing pct and will keep my progress posted. Thanks again.

So you have no idea what your own T levels were pre-cycle???

 

[TheWolverine]

No I don't know about that.
I think I made a mistake there.

 

[TheWolverine]

@Roush I am taking Winny at 50mg/DAy from the past 5 weeks. So how is it possible that the 4 KGS I have gained could be water?
I don't feel like I am bloated.

 

[Roush]

@Roush I am taking Winny at 50mg/DAy from the past 5 weeks. So how is it possible that the 4 KGS I have gained could be water?
I don't feel like I am bloated.

how much did you weigh when you began taking winny ? did you weigh more , or have you remained the same?

water weight is not JUST bloat or necessarily edema (water between fat and skin). The 'anabolic' nature of running a cycle, testosterone, is to up regulate water into muscle cells (as well as glycogen and blood volume) , Carbohydrates intake is also largely responsible for this loading of water and nutrients.

This makes you stronger as well as makes your muscles appear more full and pumped. BUT do not be deceived , this extra water weight in the muscle cell is NOT new muscle tissue (its just the existing cells being full of water). A majority of your weight gain would of been from this process, and is therefore water weight (I'm not saying this is a bad thing , this is just part of the game and how it works).

The Winny would have helped with Edema, and dried you out that way . But the water weight still remains in the muscle cells themselves, especially if your diet consists of carbs.

 

[TheWolverine]

I weighed 79 kgs when I started with Winny and right now I weight about 82.5 KGS. My diet is clean and I do about 30 mins of cardio everyday.
Thanks @Roush bro for the info