First time steroid use question????

[oldmusclemike]

i think you should train hard for the next 5 years learn your diet,and read all of the great information on aas usage.start off with why is teat a base to all cycles?if you do your research in 5 years you have a complete understanding on what you need to do or if you still even want to do it at all .have you ever heard your body is your temple?well you would not put floor tile on the walls and carpet on the ceiling .

Why FIVE (5) years if he is 22?

And for the bold type

 

[49ER]

i have no intention of gaining serious mass. I just wanna be around 170 lbs at ~ 10 % bf. Thats why i was going for tbol and clen. But please enlighten me as to why you think this a dumb cycle

clen! Wtf

 

[oldmusclemike]

i have no intention of gaining serious mass. i just wanna be around 170 lbs at ~ 10 % bf. thats why i was going for tbol and clen. But please enlighten me as to why you think this a dumb cycle

Do you know realistically the max amount of LMM and I mean Lean MM you can gain in (1) ONE full year.....15-17 lbs

 

[oldmusclemike]

clen! Wtf

OMG... OP you are clueless as to what you are doing and don't know the profiles. Scrap this idea and start studying, eating and working out.

 

[barrysanders]

Ughhhhhhh, ok bro I'll help even though it takes me forever on my fucking phone.

I'm going to make it simple though.

You want to gain weight and stay lean you said. Well, Clen helps you loose weight so strike that off your list. Tbol does help you gain but it decreases your appetite so running it with testosterone is the way to go when going that route .

You say your diet is spot on?? Bullshit! For what your goals are you don't need gear at all- it's all about diet and it's taken way to long for you to achieve what you have already.

This is what you do---- keep working out hard, revise your diet and out a good bulking plan into place, then when you plateau in a few years once your a good solid weight and BF % come back and maybe if your goals are different and your want to take BB to the next level you get jump on some gear.

Gluck-