First tren cycle, just after some advice

[The Prophet]

Hey guys 27 yr old lifter been in the game 7 years now.

Just after some advice for first tren cycle have had previous cycle experience as listed below
First cycle 24 yrs old
10 weeks of test prop at 500 mg a week

2nd cycle 26 yrs old
14 weeks of suss 250 at 600 mg a week

so im planning on running TEST E for 12 weeks at 5oomg a week and tren ace at either 75 mg or 150 mg a week for first 10 weeks, leaning towards the 75 mg , to see how body reacts or is that low of a dosage a waste of time, id prefer to take 3 cycles to get gains I could in one if means no nasty sides, so just after advice

stats are
97 kg
6 foot 2
bf 14%

pct,
super test for 5 weeks
nova , 40/40/20/20
will be running hc generate through duration of cycle and 6 weeks after

thanks guys hope to hear some feedback

 

[Southernfish]

To be honest, you dont need Tren yet. You dont have enough use of other compounds under your belt yet. Tren is very harsh, very potent and the most elite compound there is, and could be a road you wish you never went down, this soon. It is good to run other compounds to exhaust all avenues before running it, to learn how to manage side effects of other drugs, and also how your body reacts to different compounds. Youre going from beginner to advanced in three cycles, theres no need. Id run a few more cycles with other 19nor compounds and DHT compounds, learn how they work and how your body reacts, take steps to the top and get all you can out of them.

Just my opinion though.

 

[tbonexl]

Your pct is off. Wtf is super test??? Anyways doesn't belong in pct. 75-100mgs of tren ace a week is not worth doing at all. Try a test/npp cycle or something. Your making it sound like your putting nos on your moms minivan.

 

[Teutonic]

tbone

gd it,

that my line

u been reading my old post s ?????!!!!

Kidding bro..
OP...re boot this...

 

[snowpatrol123]

Tren ace 75mg/week? Are you serious?

75mg A DAY is the least I would bother with for someone your size.

 

[Nightmare007]

Try this
Test e 500mg/week 12 weeks
Npp 150mg eod 10 weeks
Hcg 500iy/week 12 weeks
Exemestane 12.5 mg eod 13 weeks
Hcg 1000 ed(10 days) week 14
Pct
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolvadex 40/40/20/204

 

[Southernfish]

Tren ace 75mg/week? Are you serious?

75mg A DAY is the least I would bother with for someone your size.

Agreed! And absolute minimum of 350 per week. But this dude has only ever run Test, no need for Tren this early in the game. So many other compounds to play around with first.

 

[The Prophet]

Thanks guys, Tbonexl can I ask how my pct is off, super test is an natural test booster and also liver detoxifier, so main purposes im using it is for the liver detoxflier, hence why using hc generate and nolva with it, or this their other errors with the pct layout?

Also I might decide to do another test only cycle or two before touching tren , I know 19 nor tren and decca or not to be taken lightly, but could some say a safe dosage to do tren in first cycle, its been made clear 75 mg is useless, was just goin to do that dosage to see how body reacts, but is like 150 or 200 mg a more appropriate first time dosage

 

[RR88]

amen to Night Mare great little set up put together for ya will be perfect!

 

[OnlyTheGreat]

Hey OP

First of all, if you're gonna be running test-e as the base, I would recommend only starting tren around week 4. Some say it might be too early for tren, but I also did tren on my 3rd cycle (just finished 3 weeks ago). I had no side effects other than sleeplessness a few nights, night sweats I only got once and I did notice that I was sweating more. My cardio also went down the drain. But it was well worth the gains!

You would need to run a minimum dose of 75mg eod (it should be plenty for a first run). I ran test-prop 100mg eod and tren-ace 75mg eod for six weeks and picked up 9kg with minimal fat gain. Strength also skyrocketed. Was very exciting to see the tren do it's work!

Your PCT does look a bit off. Maybe try clomid like this:
300mg day one
100mg ed for ten days after
50mg ed for the following ten days
Then run nolva as you have it written down. Also make sure you have bromo/caber/prami on hand for progesterone sides and with that dose of test you would most likely need an AI too.

Remember, diet is key! Have fun with your cycle!

 

[tbonexl]

All u need for pct is nolva and clomid. All that liver shit should be taken while on cycle. 4 week pct: nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid: 50/50/50/50

Like the jury says minimum 350mgs a week of tren.

 

[tbonexl]

All u need for pct is nolva and clomid. All that liver shit should be taken while on cycle. 4 week pct: nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid: 50/50/50/50

Like the jury says minimum 350mgs a week of tren.

 

[maxwell0612]

Tren is great. I think the best for gains while also getting lean. But as has been said it's not the safest and unless you're competing and need that last little hardness I would go with something else like winstrol. But it's your own decision I would use 75mgs rod if I was you.

 

[tbonexl]

Tren is great. I think the best for gains while also getting lean. But as has been said it's not the safest and unless you're competing and need that last little hardness I would go with something else like winstrol. But it's your own decision I would use 75mgs rod if I was you.

Wtf??? U got that ass backwards bud!

 

[Southernfish]

Tren is great. I think the best for gains while also getting lean. But as has been said it's not the safest and unless you're competing and need that last little hardness I would go with something else like winstrol. But it's your own decision I would use 75mgs rod if I was you.

That makes no sense

 

[maxwell0612]

That makes no sense

I have been out of this a while but in my experience winstrol is easier to take side effects wise than tren. True, everyone is different. I love tren but to me it was always a drug I used when I needed that last push. Maybe I should have suggested primo or deca instead but anyway my point is that there are better options than tren that will get you where you want to go.

 

[Teutonic]

maybe cuz I am old but winnies joint drying effects coupled with the skewing of lipids....is only for the advanced top competitors I m o. I ache when I triedit 3 years ago..

Test boosters are crap . I m o.