Forma Stanzol Log Sponsored by Mr. Supps

[cybrsage]

3-19-15 Day 1

OK Folks, here it is, the start of my Forma Stanzol use log. I just had blood work taken this morning and should have the results of it tomorrow and will post them. I have been on a bulk since 02-27-15. Prior to the bulk, I was taking 200mg of test-cyp and 500IU of HCG divided into two shots a week. At that point, I changed to 600mg of test-cyp, 400mg of deca, and 500IU of HCG per week, divided into two 3.5day apart shots. Prior to the bulk my E2 level was 45 on the non-sensitive test with the top of the range being 42.6 and no AI being used. Since then, I have been using 0.25 of Letro every 3.5 days. The blood work taken today will show what that did for me as I have no idea yet.

I am going to get blood work again in 2 weeks to see what the Forma Stanzol does, so stay tuned for that. I am also going to be logging how I feel while taking it at the recommended dosage, which is 1-2 pumps per day. I am going to start with 2 pumps and assess it in 2 weeks when I get new bloodwork. I am going to rub it on my belly and love handles areas since that is in the acceptable zone.

I just put two pumps worth onto my hand - maybe just a tad more since it was the first use of the product and I had to prime the pump...but if it was the extra amount was negligible. First thing I noticed was the smell, it reminded me of aloe tinged with an astringent. A slightly pleasant smell, which was unexpected as I did not expect any smell at all. It started as a thick block but immediately started to break down in my hand into a much thinner liquid, so you have to be ready to apply and not waste time looking at it and thinking about it.

It took a little to fully be absorbed by my belly skin - maybe 30 seconds or a little longer. The interesting thing is that it caused all the hair on my belly to stand perfectly straight up - and the hair is not short (I do not shave my check or belly). I am not a werewolf, but I do have what I would consider a normal to light amount of chest and stomach hair. I immediately thought this product could work in synergy with shaving if I did shave due to that effect. In the time it took to type out these last two paragraphs my hair restored to its normal state.

My hand smells slightly still - but no astringent smell remains, only a light smell that reminds me of aloe. It is rather pleasant and I can only smell it if I put my hand to my face. No worries about coworkers smelling it, but it could help out some with a significant other.

I do not feel any different, but I also did not expect to feel any different. No itchiness or numbness or anything odd so far.

 

[psizzle_8]

Rock on! I'll be following. And yes, that's one of the awesome things about forma...it absorbs quickly. So yes, be ready to apply it!

Good luck to you!

 

[cybrsage]

Bloodwork is in. I am going to start taking some TUDCA and up the NAC dose from 1200mg twice a day to 1800mg twice a day to get the LSH and LST levels back down. They are high, but barely out of range. My current E2 level is 28.4 using 0.25mg of Letro E3D. I stopped taking that and started taking 2 pumps of Forma Stanzol daily. I will get new bloods in another 2 or 3 weeks and see where I am.

Nothing odd to report about my second application of Forma Stanzol, no third arm starting to grow out of my belly or anything. No itching, swelling, redness, soreness, etc.

LabCorp	PATIENT INFORMATION	REPORT STATUS:  FINAL
SPECIMEN INFORMATION
COLLECTED: 2015/03/19 09:07
RECEIVED: 2015/03/19 13:51
REPORTED: 2015/03/20 07:14	AGE: 45
GENDER: Male
FASTING: Yes
 	
			
[B]Test Name				Result	Flag	Reference Range[/B]
WBC					8.9		3.4-10.8 x10E3/uL
RBC					5.13		4.14-5.80 x10E6/uL
Hemoglobin				15.9		12.6-17.7 g/dL
Hematocrit				46.2		37.5-51.0 %
MCV					90		79-97 fL
MCH					31.0		26.6-33.0 pg
MCHC					34.4		31.5-35.7 g/dL
RDW					14.3		12.3-15.4 %
Platelets				243		150-379 x10E3/uL
Neutrophils				65		 %
Lymphs					23		 %
Monocytes				9		 %
Eos					3		 %
Basos					0		 %
Neutrophils (Absolute)			5.8		1.4-7.0 x10E3/uL
Lymphs (Absolute)			2.0		0.7-3.1 x10E3/uL
Monocytes(Absolute)			0.8		0.1-0.9 x10E3/uL
Eos (Absolute)				0.2		0.0-0.4 x10E3/uL
Baso (Absolute)				0.0		0.0-0.2 x10E3/uL
Immature Granulocytes			0		 %
Immature Grans (Abs)			0.0		0.0-0.1 x10E3/uL
[COLOR="#FF0000"]Glucose, Serum				107	HIGH	65-99 mg/dL[/COLOR]
BUN					18		6-24 mg/dL
Creatinine, Serum			1.14		0.76-1.27 mg/dL
eGFR If NonAfricn Am			77		>59 mL/min/1.73
eGFR If Africn Am			89		>59 mL/min/1.73
BUN/Creatinine Ratio			16		9-20
Sodium, Serum				143		134-144 mmol/L
Potassium, Serum			4.3		3.5-5.2 mmol/L
Chloride, Serum				103		97-108 mmol/L
Carbon Dioxide, Total			27		18-29 mmol/L
Calcium, Serum				9.4		8.7-10.2 mg/dL
Protein, Total, Serum			7.0		6.0-8.5 g/dL
Albumin, Serum				4.6		3.5-5.5 g/dL
Globulin, Total				2.4		1.5-4.5 g/dL
A/G Ratio				1.9		1.1-2.5 
Bilirubin, Total			0.5		0.0-1.2 mg/dL
Alkaline Phosphatase, S			96		39-117 IU/L
[COLOR="#FF0000"]AST (SGOT)				47	HIGH	0-40 IU/L
ALT (SGPT)				48	HIGH	0-44 IU/L[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#FF0000"]Testosterone, Serum			>1500	HIGH	348-1197 ng/dL[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#0000FF"]LH					0.1	LOW	1.7-8.6 mIU/mL
FSH					<0.2	LOW	1.5-12.4 mIU/mL[/COLOR]
Estradiol				28.4		7.6-42.6 pg/mL
Roche ECLIA methodology

 

[cybrsage]

I just thought of a good question - is the Forma Stanzol transferable via touch? If so, what level of worry is it?

I used to be on Androgel and one of the big pain in the ass issues with it was transference. I put it on my shoulders and my wife could not touch me there until after I showed - which I had to wait a long time to do in order to ensure maximum absorption. She could absorb the testosterone and then have all the effects that brings about, unwillingly. Any issues with Forma?

Other than that question, still the same as before. No rash, no itching, no side effects I can tell. No idea if it is working either, going to wait a few weeks and get more blood work - that is the 100% confirmation of work / no work. No gyno issues while on this blast, so it looks good so far.

 

[cybrsage]

Changed to putting it on my arms instead of my stomach at the suggestion of Mr.Supps. They said the stomach fat will slow its absorption, which I do not want. The lovely veins in the forearms are good for absorption, so that is where I am now putting it. No change in how it feels when applied, etc.

 

[cybrsage]

I do have one small complaint about Forma Stanzol V3...it is in the packaging. The words are small and hard to read. I have had bifocals since I was 2 (yep, itty bitty eyeglasses), so my eyesight is not all the great. I misread the application instructions and was only applying it ONCE a day when I was to be applying it TWICE a day! I have corrected that error.

Other than that, no adverse affects. I was sorta hoping to grow an extra arm - it would be great to be able to drink from coffee cup while typing or tying my shoes. Does not appear it will happen.

One thing that does happen is when I apply it to my forearms, my veins stop popping out - they fade away. I suspect it is due to the cooling affect of the gel. They return within a minute of completing the application. I did not foresee this happening, but once I noticed it I understood it to not be an unexpected event.

 

[cybrsage]

I figured I would just pop in and say everything is still the same. Someone on the Mr. Supps forum said he puts the forma onto his forearm and then rubs it in with the other forearm, that way none is wasted on the hands. Since the skin on the hands is pretty thick, I think that sounds like a good idea. I have adopted it.

 

[psizzle_8]

I figured I would just pop in and say everything is still the same. Someone on the Mr. Supps forum said he puts the forma onto his forearm and then rubs it in with the other forearm, that way none is wasted on the hands. Since the skin on the hands is pretty thick, I think that sounds like a good idea. I have adopted it.

Hmm, I never thought of that. But even when I take smaller doses, and use my hands, I still benefit all the same. Still get the feeling of dry joints (telling me to lower the dosage), but it is completely up to you!

 

[cybrsage]

I have not had dry joints at all, but that is good info to keep an eye out for. Thanks!

 

[cybrsage]

I am getting new blood work tomorrow morning and might have the results the same day (it has happened before). Lets see what 15 days of use shows!

 

[cybrsage]

Peach and Easter snuck up on me...so no results yet due to the Holidays.

 

[cybrsage]

Newest blood test results. WBC, Neutrophils, Lymphs, and Monocytes are all high due to a drug I am taking because I bruised both tendons connecting my thumb to my wrist (as well as also being caused by the damage itself). BUN/Creatine Ratio is high due to a high protein diet. Test is high due to a bulking cycle using AAS. LH, FSH are low and always will be due to being on TRT. The problem is the next line, E2 level. Apparently, Forma Stanzol is not keeping up with the high test and deca doses I am taking, E2 is 248! I am aborting it and shifting to Letro to get it back under control.

Thank you for this opportunity to test it out. For a normal TRT dose, it might be a good fit, but definitely not on a high test creating cycle.

COLLECTED: 2015/04/03 09:29
AGE: 45
GENDER: Male
FASTING: Yes
Private MD Labs

[B][COLOR="#FF0000"]WBC                         12.5    HIGH    3.4-10.8 x10E3/uL[/COLOR][/B]
RBC                         4.91             4.14-5.80 x10E6/uL
Hemoglobin                  15.2             12.6-17.7 g/dL
Hematocrit                  44.6             37.5-51.0 %
MCV                         91               79-97 fL
MCH                         31.0             26.6-33.0 pg
MCHC                        34.1             31.5-35.7 g/dL
RDW                         13.4             12.3-15.4 %
Platelets                   243              150-379 x10E3/uL
Neutrophils                 61 %
Lymphs                      29 %
Monocytes                   9 %
Eos                         1 %
Basos                       0 %
[B][COLOR="#FF0000"]Neutrophils (Absolute)      7.6       HIGH    1.4-7.0 x10E3/uL
Lymphs (Absolute)           3.6       HIGH     0.7-3.1 x10E3/uL
Monocytes(Absolute)         1.1       HIGH    0.1-0.9 x10E3/uL[/COLOR][/B]
Eos (Absolute)              0.1                   0.0-0.4 x10E3/uL
Baso (Absolute)             0.0                   0.0-0.2 x10E3/uL
Immature Granulocytes       0 %
Immature Grans (Abs)        0.0                   0.0-0.1 x10E3/uL
Glucose, Serum              88                    65-99 mg/dL
BUN                         21                    6-24 mg/dL
Creatinine, Serum           0.95                 0.76-1.27 mg/dL
eGFR If NonAfricn Am        96                  >59 mL/min/1.73
[B][COLOR="#FF0000"]BUN/Creatinine Ratio        22        HIGH     9-20[/COLOR][/B]
Sodium, Serum               140                   134-144 mmol/L
Potassium, Serum            4.2                    3.5-5.2 mmol/L
Chloride, Serum             101                    97-108 mmol/L
Carbon Dioxide, Total       22                    18-29 mmol/L
Calcium, Serum              9.0                    8.7-10.2 mg/dL
Protein, Total, Serum       6.8                    6.0-8.5 g/dL
Albumin, Serum              4.3                     3.5-5.5 g/dL
Globulin, Total             2.5                     1.5-4.5 g/dL
A/G Ratio                   1.7                     1.1-2.5
Bilirubin, Total            0.4                     0.0-1.2 mg/dL
Alkaline Phosphatase        87                     39-117 IU/L
AST (SGOT)                  33                      0-40 IU/L
ALT (SGPT)                  40                      0-44 IU/L
[B][COLOR="#FF0000"]Testosterone, Serum        >1500      HIGH     348-1197 ng/dL[/COLOR][/B]
[B][COLOR="#0000FF"]LH                          0.1       LOW       1.7-8.6 mIU/mL
FSH                         <0.2      LOW      1.5-12.4 mIU/mL[/COLOR][/B]
[B][COLOR="#FF0000"]Estradiol                   248.4     HIGH     7.6-42.6 pg/mL[/COLOR][/B]

 

[mich29]

yea i would assume you'd need a high dose on a stronger cycle I've also personally doubled the dosing of forma to account for cycles.thanks for posting this and logging this

 

[cybrsage]

My pleasure!

 

[cybrsage]

Even though this turned out to be a bust when used during a blast, I plan on trying it again later when I am back to using just my normal TRT dose. I am hopeful it will not only help keep the E2 in check at that level, but also help with fat loss and skin tightening. I did notice my skin did not dry out at all, which I am happy about as I tend to have dry skin.

When I do, I will run another log, complete with before and after blood work. No other way to prove something works, IMO.