Friend's Opinion for A 5th Cycle

[infar250]

This is an opinoin i had gotten for a 5th cycle of mine......... this wont happen until next winter and is still in the process of masterminding......so please critique away....... this is my 5th cycle like i said never went over a gram of test before most i had ever taken was 750mgs........ this time i was thinkin about doing a little bit over a gram....not sure if thats an over kill thats why i am posting on here.......... this will also be a winter/cut down spring cycle combined in one......so it's going to be a 20 wker not all test though......my stats are 5ft7 183 lbs.......... 11-12%bf.........

wks1-5 50mgs of prop EOD
wks1-4 35mgs of dbol EOD
wks1-10 1gram of Enanthate WK
wks11 -12 1 gram of omnadren wk to provide a taper
wks11-18 75mgs of Fina day
wks1-20 500mgs of Eq wk

as well as always i will most likely be takin 1/2mg or 1 mg of liquidex per day on estrogen sensitivity will have nolvadex on hand and will always start HCG/Clomid therapy protocol after cycle....... as well as some Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) in the middle of this cycle since it's quite long. The purpose of omnadren at the end of the enanthate is the purpose to provide a taper someone said i shold take like 2-3 wks off in between b4 i restart the fina and eq for the other 8wks...... i dont think it'll make a difference though...... however i am no newbie to juice i am still thiknin about the doses....... everyone i know tells me that 1gram cycles will add some serious mass if taken correctly....... as well as if cycled correctly could be more beneficial than our first "virgin cycle" someone gimme some critques i think this cycle looks good on thing i am skeptical about is weither or not it's too much test..... but i am going to be on liquidex ........

 

[Stroyer]

Cycle

You mantion to switch things up the final 2 weeks on the test to achieve a taper, any long duration test you will get a bit of build up which will result in a bit of self tapering as well...IMO I dont think you will notice any difference changing to the omna on weeks 11 & 12, I would just run the enanthate all 12 weeks & just taper the dose down the final week by 500mg.

With about the same layout & doses & gear you listed I would do somthing like this:

Weeks 1-10: 1 gr enanthate
Weeks 11 & 12: 500mg enanthate
Weeks 1-6: 50mg prop EOD (i acutally like this idea, to help get a little more at the begining till the enanthate really kicks in)
Weeks 1-4: 35mg dbol ED (i would run the dbol ed not eod)
Weeks 1-16: 500mg eq
Weeks 10-15: 75mg fina ED
Week 16: 75mg fina EOD

Use either Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) @ 5000iu every 4 weeks during the cycle & or 50mg clomid EOD during the cycle, then one week after your last shot start clomid ed..

Stroyer

 

[GreasyGreek]

I like Stroyer's cycle layout better too. I would call to even take the dbol around 3-5 times per day. It is optimal to do it this way because of dbol short duration of action. Also, I would differ from either cycle by dropping the EQ much shorter. It will be the longest acting ester you have and will therefore take much longer to clear. Stop it by week 13 or 14, so that you can make a clear, definitive end to your cycle without some drugs floating around months after the others.

Some may disagree and encourage a type of taper, but this will inhibit proper recovery and not make proper usage of the time while on androgens.

 

[Stroyer]

To taper or not to taper..

I agree, to taper or not to taper has been a coversation of dispute as much as HIT or volume training has...lol...some people claim one must taper, others say it is a waste of time & $$..

I believe it you end a cycle with any type of oral it MUST be tapered, however if you cut out the oral mid cycle while using other gear tapering the oral is not as importatnt...

With injects, I still am a believer in a little taper...not a long drawn out 4-6 weeks taper of yesteryears cycles but like 2 weeks at most...though if prefered I would not end a cycle with long duration compounds...

Check my post at AP of my example gains keeper cycle...

www.anabolic-paradise.com/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6609

Stroyer

I like Stroyer's cycle layout better too. I would call to even take the dbol around 3-5 times per day. It is optimal to do it this way because of dbol short duration of action. Also, I would differ from either cycle by dropping the EQ much shorter. It will be the longest acting ester you have and will therefore take much longer to clear. Stop it by week 13 or 14, so that you can make a clear, definitive end to your cycle without some drugs floating around months after the others.

Some may disagree and encourage a type of taper, but this will inhibit proper recovery and not make proper usage of the time while on androgens.