LONG (5yr) Cycle + Fertility

[imfusio]

Question on Fertility after 5yr cycle...

I'm a professional strength athlete and have competed dozens of times in high level contests over the past decade.
I'm 36 now. I've been on cycle with various compounds over the years. My staple for the past 5 yrs has been 750 Test E/600 Deca, sprinkling in other various things depending on competition schedule.

My (ex)Wife and I had a baby girl at 2 yrs into this 5yr "cycle", getting pregnant after just 1 shot of HCG. "Neat" I thought, "no more kids now, I'm just going to stay on forever."

Well, life had unexpected turns.

I got divorced and am now considering new relationships where MORE children may be desired.

Has anyone been able to become fertile again after such a long cycle?
I would like to stay on that same cycle and still be able to make babies without coming off (as I did before).

Any recommendations on a specific HCG cycle for this scenario? Should I add in HMG (if I can find any sources...). Add in clomid? And what dosages? etc?

As it is, I'll probably be adding in caber and viagra/cialis, maybe proviron to help with deca dick that's getting me, but I'm concerned about restoring Fertility after so long. Once I have an established cycle, I'll get bloods done.

Thanks!

 

[V23]

I;ve been on testosterone 200-300mg for over a year with some SARMs and orals intermittently. Im 36 as well trying to have a child for the first time. I was on HCG 250iu twice a week now I;m on 500iu twice a week for the past 6 months. I dont know how this is going to go.

I am getting my semen tested Tuesday to see where I am at. I guess I start there and see where you are at. There a lot of factors in trying to conceive especially with a womans body.

So I would get tested then start HCG. That;s what my doctor recommended. I wouldnt freak out and start taking a bunch of stuff. Dave Palumbo recommends coming off, taking HCG HMG and Clomid..... that seems overkill and not good for you or your performance. Hopefully you do not need to do that. I would just do one step at a time. Good luck mate.

 

[mikelaurey]

Why are you considering to take viagra/cialis? Are you having ED problems?
May be I'm wrong, but as far as I know, it is suggested to take HCG while on testesterone to help your testicles keep their volume.
Still can't understand why some guys consider HCG only as PCT.

@V23: have you ever tested your semen in the past? If yes, how was it?

 

[A.B]

If you are considering it and there is a time where youre going to be actively trying.

I would come off everything and use HCG 1000iu mon wed and Friday for 4 weeks. Three days after last injection 50mg clomid and 20mg nolva for 8 weeks and see where youre at. It takes time and who knows where your body is at fertility wise. Not what you wanna hear but if youre only temporarily off for a few months and the wifey gets prego thats fine you wont lose gains. Up cals. Take mk677 and train to preserve

 

[casanovaaa]

If you are considering it and there is a time where youre going to be actively trying.

I would come off everything and use HCG 1000iu mon wed and Friday for 4 weeks. Three days after last injection 50mg clomid and 20mg nolva for 8 weeks and see where youre at. It takes time and who knows where your body is at fertility wise. Not what you wanna hear but if youre only temporarily off for a few months and the wifey gets prego thats fine you wont lose gains. Up cals. Take mk677 and train to preserve

Spot on advice here!

 

[casanovaaa]

Why are you considering to take viagra/cialis? Are you having ED problems?
May be I'm wrong, but as far as I know, it is suggested to take HCG while on testesterone to help your testicles keep their volume.
Still can't understand why some guys consider HCG only as PCT.

@V23: have you ever tested your semen in the past? If yes, how was it?

does my head in when men take hcg after pct or during when its supposed to be taken as soon as you start your cycle when pinning testosterone.
and yes a semen exam would reveal the numbers as well.

and viagra cialis etc is pure poison and will kill you in the end.

 

[Nicky_eye_lids]

If you are considering it and there is a time where youre going to be actively trying.

I would come off everything and use HCG 1000iu mon wed and Friday for 4 weeks. Three days after last injection 50mg clomid and 20mg nolva for 8 weeks and see where youre at. It takes time and who knows where your body is at fertility wise. Not what you wanna hear but if youre only temporarily off for a few months and the wifey gets prego thats fine you wont lose gains. Up cals. Take mk677 and train to preserve

very sound advice there bro. Hope op takes it to heart.

 

[Nicky_eye_lids]

 

[casanovaaa]

Question on Fertility after 5yr cycle...

I'm a professional strength athlete and have competed dozens of times in high level contests over the past decade.
I'm 36 now. I've been on cycle with various compounds over the years. My staple for the past 5 yrs has been 750 Test E/600 Deca, sprinkling in other various things depending on competition schedule.

My (ex)Wife and I had a baby girl at 2 yrs into this 5yr "cycle", getting pregnant after just 1 shot of HCG. "Neat" I thought, "no more kids now, I'm just going to stay on forever."

Well, life had unexpected turns.

I got divorced and am now considering new relationships where MORE children may be desired.

Has anyone been able to become fertile again after such a long cycle?
I would like to stay on that same cycle and still be able to make babies without coming off (as I did before).

Any recommendations on a specific HCG cycle for this scenario? Should I add in HMG (if I can find any sources...). Add in clomid? And what dosages? etc?

As it is, I'll probably be adding in caber and viagra/cialis, maybe proviron to help with deca dick that's getting me, but I'm concerned about restoring Fertility after so long. Once I have an established cycle, I'll get bloods done.

Thanks!

id be very interested to learn how one can be fertile after cycling gear for 5 years.
how would the kids turn out?

 

[scorob777]

does my head in when men take hcg after pct or during when its supposed to be taken as soon as you start your cycle when pinning testosterone.
and yes a semen exam would reveal the numbers as well.

and viagra cialis etc is pure poison and will kill you in the end.

I wonder why you think viagra and cialis are poisons Casanovaaa?

 

[casanovaaa]

I wonder why you think viagra and cialis are poisons Casanovaaa?

because I can read my friend and can reason for myself instead of the world telling me what to think and say.


google them both and study the side effects......

General symptoms of poisoning can include:
feeling and being sick.
diarrhoea.
stomach pain.
drowsiness, dizziness or weakness.
high temperature of 38C (100.4F) or above.
chills (shivering)
loss of appetite.
headache.

Common side effects of Cialis include:
flushing (redness or warmth of the face, neck, or chest),
headaches,
stomach upset,
diarrhea,
flu-like symptoms (such as stuffy nose, sneezing, or sore throat),
memory problems,
muscle or back pain,
nausea,

 

[scorob777]

Tell me more amigo. I'm not trying to be snarky. I know viagra can make you feel like shit. And a lot of cialis gives me a headache. What more do you know?

 

[Harnold]

Why are you considering to take viagra/cialis? Are you having ED problems?
May be I'm wrong, but as far as I know, it is suggested to take HCG while on testesterone to help your testicles keep their volume.
Still can't understand why some guys consider HCG only as PCT.

@V23: have you ever tested your semen in the past? If yes, how was it?

I think he said he had deca dick. lol. Not really a laughing matter but I've been through it so feel I can chuckle now. I prefer cialis out of the two options he mentioned though.

 

[Harnold]

Tell me more amigo. I'm not trying to be snarky. I know viagra can make you feel like shit. And a lot of cialis gives me a headache. What more do you know?

I was surprised to hear that you were getting headaches from cialis as I only have that issue with viagra?? Too much cialis has made me feel bad but only the viagra causes me headaches, almost like a sinus headache and I even get stuffed up, not to mention the hangover feeling the next day. Not much of a drinker so it must have had something to do with the big V. You ever get that from V?

 

[Harnold]

id be very interested to learn how one can be fertile after cycling gear for 5 years.
how would the kids turn out?

Interesting final point about how the kids turn out. I have a buddy who has been competing in bodybuilding shows for about ten years now and he and his wife were trying to have a baby about 5 years ago now. Anyway, I got him some HCG and he did end up getting her pregnant a short time later. Whether it was the HCG or not I cant say but I can tell you the little fella missed his first year of school going through treatments for a rare form of cancer and just got by the one year mark for being cleared recently. I'm very happy about that but still worry and hope I didnt fck up somehow in giving him that HCG, or if his own body somehow passed that on to the son. Its easy for people to point the finger and harder to live thinking you might be the reason the kid has been through so much already. I hope his Dad didnt have anything to do with it either but who knows right? Food for thought I guess.

 

[appleton111]

The good news is that this is often a very treatable and recoverable form of male infertility. Once the steroid use has stopped, it generally takes about three months for sperm to return in the semen. For men who have used steroids for a long time, recovery may take longer ***8211; even sometimes a year or more.

 

[mikelaurey]

I;ve been on testosterone 200-300mg for over a year with some SARMs and orals intermittently. Im 36 as well trying to have a child for the first time. I was on HCG 250iu twice a week now I;m on 500iu twice a week for the past 6 months. I dont know how this is going to go.

I am getting my semen tested Tuesday to see where I am at. I guess I start there and see where you are at. There a lot of factors in trying to conceive especially with a womans body.

So I would get tested then start HCG. That;s what my doctor recommended. I wouldnt freak out and start taking a bunch of stuff. Dave Palumbo recommends coming off, taking HCG HMG and Clomid..... that seems overkill and not good for you or your performance. Hopefully you do not need to do that. I would just do one step at a time. Good luck mate.

How is it going after one year?