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[Aviduser]

I recently obtained GP methan 10 tablets which are supposedly 10mg d-bol tabs and GP mast 200 which is supposedly a prop and ethanate mix.


For my question, What should I run with the test Im on a bulk cycle? and how many mg of the d-bol should I take a day? And has anyone in this forum taken anything from GP before?

I apologize if this is not in the right forum.


-newb

 

[ezred]

I recently obtained GP methan 10 tablets which are supposedly 10mg d-bol tabs and GP mast 200 which is supposedly a prop and ethanate mix.


For my question, What should I run with the test Im on a bulk cycle? and how many mg of the d-bol should I take a day? And has anyone in this forum taken anything from GP before?

I apologize if this is not in the right forum.


-newb

have you started your cycle yet?

is this your first cycle?

do you have your post cycle therapy (pct) and Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand?

stats (age/height/weight/bf%/training & diet experience/goals/etc.)?

1 vial of mast 200 isn't going to get you very far. that's like 2 and a half weeks of use or so. if this is your first cycle i wouldn't mess with it anyway.

as for something take with your test, again, this would depend on where you're at, and what your goals are, but taking the dbol with it makes sense to me. regarding dosage, i'd personally start with about 3 of the 10mg tabs per day. research goes both ways on whether to take them all at once or spread them out. the half life is very short so if you take them all at once your blood levels will peak then fade out before your next day's dose. however that will result in higher peak blood serum levels.

i'd try one way first, then next time you run it try it the other way. that's the only way you'll figure out which way you prefer.

but again, this is all dependent on where you're at now, if you haven't cycled before you might be at a point where waiting is best, so post some more info so we (and by we i mean all of the other helpful folk around here that have far more experience than i do) can take a look and try to help you out!

 

[Aviduser]

ezred,

This is not my first cycle, i have done everything under the sun over the last 7 years, I'm merely trying to plan this next cycle out much better then I have in the past.

I am 28 years old, 5'10 220lbs and holding right now, my bodyfat is probally arround 15% but I'm a bouncer at a strip club and simply need size over strength and general quality muscle. BTW i take in arround 5,000 calories a day mostly from carbs so i know how to gain weight even though some of it might convert to fat but I'm typically have a high metabolism.

I'm actually a novice powerlifter and am quite strong, any cycle I take the objective is to add size or lbs of quality muscle that I can keep so i can be a bit bigger and more intimidating. I know most of this might sound silly, but you gotta be a big guy in a strip club even though your probally super strong and look phenomal with your shirt off.


Are suggesting I take 3cc a week of the gp mast? I planned on stacking it with EQ for the fact there is no side effects for libido and it will increase my appetite. For post cycle therapy i was gonna run novidex at the end of the cycle or earlier if i expeirnce any gyno effects.

and what is ur oppinion of the mast 200? Is it dirty stuff or potential for health problems?

 

[ezred]

ezred,

This is not my first cycle, i have done everything under the sun over the last 7 years, I'm merely trying to plan this next cycle out much better then I have in the past.

I am 28 years old, 5'10 220lbs and holding right now, my bodyfat is probally arround 15% but I'm a bouncer at a strip club and simply need size over strength and general quality muscle. BTW i take in arround 5,000 calories a day mostly from carbs so i know how to gain weight even though some of it might convert to fat but I'm typically have a high metabolism.

I'm actually a novice powerlifter and am quite strong, any cycle I take the objective is to add size or lbs of quality muscle that I can keep so i can be a bit bigger and more intimidating. I know most of this might sound silly, but you gotta be a big guy in a strip club even though your probally super strong and look phenomal with your shirt off.


Are suggesting I take 3cc a week of the gp mast? I planned on stacking it with EQ for the fact there is no side effects for libido and it will increase my appetite. For post cycle therapy i was gonna run novidex at the end of the cycle or earlier if i expeirnce any gyno effects.

and what is ur oppinion of the mast 200? Is it dirty stuff or potential for health problems?

ah i see.

wasn't sure from your first post.

the mast might help you take on less water from the dbol and test, but you probably have a decent idea of how the sides hit you by now? and it actually sounds like for your goals you'd rather take on the water from the dbol, help you get in and lift heavy and even though from what i hear everything you put on with dbol is water, that might help you.

i would think for your goals, a simple test/deca/dbol type of stack would be a better way to go than with the mast.

i'm assuming you've done the dbol before, if it isn't your first cycle you might move the dosage up a bit.

we should be clear though, i'm not experienced in this game at all, you'll probably benefit a lot more from getting feedback from some of the guys who are.

i've used a couple of gp tabs and they were fine, some friends have used a couple others and agreed. i've used their test-e and primo. they were long ester though and i only actually used the gp stuff for the first week of my cycle so nothing really to compare them to. from a smoothness and post-injection pain standpoint i preferred others.

 

[Aviduser]

yah i do like the puffy look from dbol, im pretty receptive to dbol tabs but the tabs are so hard on your liver, you think milk thistle will take care of that? Im thinking deca but i read a lot of nasty side effects from it even though i don't recall getting limp dick from it but i don't remember if i was getting laid at that point in time.

You think i should i trade this bottle of mas,prop,ethante mix out for like a test cyp?

 

[ezred]

yah i do like the puffy look from dbol, im pretty receptive to dbol tabs but the tabs are so hard on your liver, you think milk thistle will take care of that? Im thinking deca but i read a lot of nasty side effects from it even though i don't recall getting limp dick from it but i don't remember if i was getting laid at that point in time.

You think i should i trade this bottle of mas,prop,ethante mix out for like a test cyp?

well from what i understand running deca with test shouldn't give you deca dick. and i've heard that the test/deca/dbol stack is a highly effective bulking stack.

i have, however, read a lot of interesting things about mast, and about it potentially being effective when bulking as well. typically i think it is considered to be a cutting drug, as it helps keep your body from going catabolic in a calorie deficient environment, supposedly helps reduce estrogen, etc.

but reading up on it, there also seems to be potential for use during bulking. if you haven't tried it before you could always try it out and see what you think.

the dbol will be hard on your liver, yes... but running it at a reasonable dosage 4-6 weeks especially alongside some liver support should be alright. have you gotten bloodwork done much during your past usage?

i read good things about liv52 which i picked up for when i add orals like dbol. naps carries it.

so i mean for something more "tried and true" doing a test/deca/dbol (running dbol at the beginning and/or end of the cycle) would seem to be a good way to go. then maybe after a cycle of that you could try throwing in mast to a similar cycle next time if you wanted to see how you did with it.

if you aren't going to use the mast now, i'd go ahead trade it out. when you do decide to use it, you'll need at least 2 bottles but more likely 3 to last thru a solid cycle. so you should be able to get them all whenever you decide to implement it. no point hanging on to just one now that you aren't using if it won't last you by itself should you decide to use it, know what i mean?

 

[Die$eL~Man]

get a new job if thats you concern.

 

[Conrad415]

Get Geneza Test E or C (either or is fine). Run the dbol at 50mg fror 4-6 weeks. But with any oral, you should protect your liver so get some Need2Guard also.

If you have done everything under the sun the past 7 years, then why are you asking such simple questions?

 

[gorillaglue]

Liv52 is worthless IME and you can buy it just about anywhere.

If you are really concerned about your liver, go with UDCA or TUDCA. I might grab some UDCA myself from RUI today since it is on sale and actually fairly reasonable price-wise.

Some n-acetyl-cysteine is a cheap and helpful addition too, but nothing beats UDCA or TUDCA for anti-cholestatic effects from oral steroid use.

 

[gorillaglue]

Get Geneza Test E or C (either or is fine). Run the dbol at 50mg fror 4-6 weeks. But with any oral, you should protect your liver so get some Need2Guard also.

If you have done everything under the sun the past 7 years, then why are you asking such simple questions?

Now -that- is a good question.

 

[derek.d]

you would think some1 who has done everything under the sun would know about d-bol?

 

[superhuman_98]

yup

you would think some1 who has done everything under the sun would know about d-bol?

Dbol hides under trees (thus avoiding sunlight)

 

[Aviduser]

EZred,

I've have blood work done in the past finishing up my first cycle and my liver enzymes weren't even elevated so im not to concerned with anything like that.

I know guys that run 100mg of dbol a day but they're on the extreme end, but i only have a 100 tabs at 10mgs a piece so i was thinking 30mg a day for aproximately 5 weeks should do it. Then run 2cc each of the mast/test blend with some deca for 10 weeks followed by 4 weeks of novidex towards the end or at the end of the cycle.

I'm thinking once i actually run out of the mast test blend jumping on sustanon, wadda think?


Edit:
IME anti estrogens or anything post cycle therapy related never really made the differnce. The best thing for me was to slowly lower the dosages to nothing, take it easy in the gym for a few weeks, and continue to eat enough to maintain the weight I had put on during the cycle.

 

[ezred]

EZred,

I've have blood work done in the past finishing up my first cycle and my liver enzymes weren't even elevated so im not to concerned with anything like that.

I know guys that run 100mg of dbol a day but they're on the extreme end, but i only have a 100 tabs at 10mgs a piece so i was thinking 30mg a day for aproximately 5 weeks should do it. Then run 2cc each of the mast/test blend with some deca for 10 weeks followed by 4 weeks of novidex towards the end or at the end of the cycle.

I'm thinking once i actually run out of the mast test blend jumping on sustanon, wadda think?


Edit:
IME anti estrogens or anything post cycle therapy related never really made the differnce. The best thing for me was to slowly lower the dosages to nothing, take it easy in the gym for a few weeks, and continue to eat enough to maintain the weight I had put on during the cycle.

i'm pretty sure the mast 200 that you're talking about is a blend of just the two different esters of the drostanolone, no testosterone in there. it is drostanolone propionate and drostanolone enanthate, at 50mg/ml and 150mg/ml respectively.

it isn't a mast/test blend. double check of course but definitely important distinction to keep in mind.

 

[gorillaglue]

EZred,

I've have blood work done in the past finishing up my first cycle and my liver enzymes weren't even elevated so im not to concerned with anything like that.

I know guys that run 100mg of dbol a day but they're on the extreme end, but i only have a 100 tabs at 10mgs a piece so i was thinking 30mg a day for aproximately 5 weeks should do it. Then run 2cc each of the mast/test blend with some deca for 10 weeks followed by 4 weeks of novidex towards the end or at the end of the cycle.

I'm thinking once i actually run out of the mast test blend jumping on sustanon, wadda think?


Edit:
IME anti estrogens or anything post cycle therapy related never really made the differnce. The best thing for me was to slowly lower the dosages to nothing, take it easy in the gym for a few weeks, and continue to eat enough to maintain the weight I had put on during the cycle.

I wouldn't bridge from masteron to sustanon. The Sustanon (sust) is going to take forever to clear your system; if anything you should start it first or at the same time as the mast blend.

 

[Aviduser]

I wouldn't bridge from masteron to sustanon. The Sustanon (sust) is going to take forever to clear your system; if anything you should start it first or at the same time as the mast blend.

What did you mean by the Sustanon (sust) clearing your system?

 

[Aviduser]

get a new job if thats you concern.

I absolutely love my job and don't plan on giving it up anytime soon, thats why im staying big.

 

[juced_porkchop]

I recently obtained GP methan 10 tablets which are supposedly 10mg d-bol tabs and GP mast 200 which is supposedly a prop and ethanate mix.


For my question, What should I run with the test Im on a bulk cycle? and how many mg of the d-bol should I take a day? And has anyone in this forum taken anything from GP before?

I apologize if this is not in the right forum.


-newb

you realize mast is not Test right?
you have somthing elses that acually sast testosterone on the label right?
you also need to give us more info and stats.

 

[juced_porkchop]

,
the mast/test blend

you realize you dont have a mast/test blend right?

i really dont think you have the knoladge of theses drugs to use them safly put in a few months if not year of research before you go sticking yourself.

Is this your first cycle?

 

[juced_porkchop]

What did you mean by the Sustanon (sust) clearing your system?

one of the sestr is VERY slow release.
it will prob take like 3 weeks.

go for test cyp or eth.