Going for a restart....MAYBE found a good Doctor!

[JonnyBravo22]

I lost him because he would not test for any other bloods beside total test. He also looked me dead in the face after 4 months of TRT and his diagnosis and said he doesn't know much about TRT and that I should probably see a specialist.

I see the endo again in March. He wanted me to wait 3 months for all of my levels to go back to pre TRT. Which I think is a bit long and going to be a bad time

I am off the shots after seeing him 2 days ago.

 

[Alpin]

I lost him because he would not test for any other bloods beside total test. He also looked me dead in the face after 4 months of TRT and his diagnosis and said he doesn't know much about TRT and that I should probably see a specialist.

I see the endo again in March. He wanted me to wait 3 months for all of my levels to go back to pre TRT. Which I think is a bit long and going to be a bad time

I am off the shots after seeing him 2 days ago.

Exactly!
Guy never knew fuck all. He should have used a HCG mono protocol on you and/or clomid first if he knew what he was doing.
Theres still T in your system bro....it wont wash out in 2 days....lol
Give it 3-4 weeks till you start feeling the stuff clear completely out of your system.

I had an endo tell me HCG works fine for me....levels were coming down from 596 to 384 ng/dl 2 weeks ago.
He told me levels were still good. Good how ?
He also only tested for Total T but did check Bio Avail. T as well.

 

[JonnyBravo22]

Well then I guess good luck to both of us and lets just hope IMT starts taking insurance soon. So much easier to deal with them.

 

[Alpin]

keep us posted on results for this...

 

[JonnyBravo22]

Blood work form last Monday.

This was after almost 4 months on TRT and 3 months on 80mg 2x a week. It was done in the morning 3 days after a shot and 1 hour before my very last shot. I have now been off for around 11 days.

 

[JonnyBravo22]

I feel like the estrogen is really high...but I did not get the sensitive test.

Glucose is back to normal as well...don't know why it was so low last time

 

[Megatron28]

Estrogen doesn't tell you much. You need to check estradiol. It is the strongest form of the different estrogens.

 

[Alpin]

where is the estrogen test ?

 

[jomamma007]

Jonny what are you doing bro?
First off you need to order some clomid off the web and run some yourself. These doctors don't have any magic elixirs or potions. They will most likely just give you some clomid and thats it. Almost none will give you HCG.
You're going to fall back to your 200 level if you just stop your shots most likely, or even less.

Also You need to have estradiol tested not estrogens. Having said that, judging by your level your estradiol is still high.
BTW how did you feel on trt>>??? I'm 22 in your shoes goign through the same crap trying to start a restart.

But you don't come off and wait 3 months to pct. You wait 2-3 weeks after your last shot because that is when you need to jumpstart back your natural T

PSSSh my doctor told me to just come off and said I don't need clomid because I wasn't on a steroid dose....sigh

 

[Alpin]

Jonny what are you doing bro?
First off you need to order some clomid off the web and run some yourself. These doctors don't have any magic elixirs or potions. They will most likely just give you some clomid and thats it. Almost none will give you HCG.
You're going to fall back to your 200 level if you just stop your shots most likely, or even less.

Also You need to have estradiol tested not estrogens. Having said that, judging by your level your estradiol is still high.
BTW how did you feel on trt>>??? I'm 22 in your shoes goign through the same crap trying to start a restart.

But you don't come off and wait 3 months to pct. You wait 2-3 weeks after your last shot because that is when you need to jumpstart back your natural T

PSSSh my doctor told me to just come off and said I don't need clomid because I wasn't on a steroid dose....sigh

This new 80 year old doc he was sent to, claims he can fix his HPTA in 2 weeks with clomid...then he's off everything and magically restarted again.

 

[JonnyBravo22]

Well my liver enzymes and glucose are back. My estradiol was obviously high. I did not do the sensitive so I do not know how high. I thought there as a formula for that. Oh well it doesn't matter now that I am off the TRT. Been almost 2 weeks now. Feel the same on as off. At the Doctors mercy now. Wait a few months...try clomid for a few weeks...no expecting much out of that and then off to the next circus clown. This is so much fun.

 

[Alpin]

Well my liver enzymes and glucose are back. My estradiol was obviously high. I did not do the sensitive so I do not know how high. I thought there as a formula for that. Oh well it doesn't matter now that I am off the TRT. Been almost 2 weeks now. Feel the same on as off. At the Doctors mercy now. Wait a few months...try clomid for a few weeks...no expecting much out of that and then off to the next circus clown. This is so much fun.

I felt the same way 2 weeks after the shot. Tell us how you feel 3 weeks from now.

 

[jomamma007]

Johnny no disrespect my friend but this IS YOUR HEALTH. TAKE IT INTO YOUR OWN HANDS. You're not at the mercy of your doc. Mug a hobo, don't eat out, maybe you gotta little christmas cash, do whatever you need to and buy some clomid. It's Very cheap.
WHY WAIT 2 months to take clomid. You should be taking it now!

Go to the site sponsor rui or ar-r , drop just 50 dollars, buy some clomid. yes it's legit, and try your own restart before you see the doc.

First off waiting 2 months to take clomid is a horrid idea.
2nd taking it for two weeks isn't an apporpriate time frame. He should put you on it for at least a month. Some docs put guys on clomid for 3-6 months to help restore their HPTA. This kind of stuff takes time.

Your levels are going to be in the gutter. Get 50 bucks somehow and save your nuts and yourself 2 months of misery.

 

[Alpin]

Johnny no disrespect my friend but this IS YOUR HEALTH. TAKE IT INTO YOUR OWN HANDS. You're not at the mercy of your doc. Mug a hobo, don't eat out, maybe you gotta little christmas cash, do whatever you need to and buy some clomid. It's Very cheap.
WHY WAIT 2 months to take clomid. You should be taking it now!

Go to the site sponsor rui or ar-r , drop just 50 dollars, buy some clomid. yes it's legit, and try your own restart before you see the doc.

First off waiting 2 months to take clomid is a horrid idea.
2nd taking it for two weeks isn't an apporpriate time frame. He should put you on it for at least a month. Some docs put guys on clomid for 3-6 months to help restore their HPTA. This kind of stuff takes time.

Your levels are going to be in the gutter. Get 50 bucks somehow and save your nuts and yourself 2 months of misery.

He should actually be running HCG first and do bloodwork to see where his TT is at then attempt SERM(Clomid) therapy. You make it or break it on HCG.
But what do I know.

 

[JonnyBravo22]

Nurse called and said doctor is out of town till next week but that she saw no abnormalities on the MRI of the pituitary. That is good news but still gives me no answer. This really is frustrating.

I can afford the Clomid. Don't know where to get the HCG from a credible source though nor do I know its price.

The reason I don't want to self medicate is that I don't want to lose another doctor. Soon I will be out of doctors in my area which is a stupid problem to have. WHAT DO I DO!! HELP!....not srs....yes I am.

 

[methos0123]

S*************.com is legit. I have ordered anastrozole from them with credit card. Nothing bad happened and I got in 5 days from time of order. You can get hcg without a script from them.

 

[JonnyBravo22]

I guess I would have to search on here for correct dosages and what not. Anyone feel free to chip in on an exact regimen you would try. Or if I should just wait on the doctor. Thank you for all the help guys.

 

[Brunodk]

Safemeds4all.com is legit. I have ordered anastrozole from them with credit card. Nothing bad happened and I got in 5 days from time of order. You can get hcg without a script from them.

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[Megatron28]

Do you need a script for anastrozole from them? Also curious about cialis without a prescription since it is often recommended around here.

(If this is an inappropriate post I'll delete it immediately)

Guys, take the non-doctor prescribed talk over to the AAS forum.

 

[Brunodk]

Guys, take the non-doctor prescribed talk over to the AAS forum.

Apologies. Deleted my post.