Going to do test/tren as my second cycle, when do most people get the sides?
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halfwit
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Second cycle? Boy, I sure hope you have done your homework. You now have prolactin to contend with as well as the other sides that come with the drug. I also strongly advise you stick with acetate so you can abort if you find out tren is not for you. Being stuck with sides for 3-4 weeks while you wait for the enanthate to clear can't be fun by any stretch of the imagination. 
I too am curious what your stats are as palmers mentioned.
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I too am curious what your stats are as palmers mentioned.
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riprockwell
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Stats please and I definitely wouldn't run tren as a second cycle. Tren is a 4th, 5th, 6th cycle, etc. And like HW said, first time tren users should get Tren Ace. You still have more research to do which is why it's crucial you post stats, etc.
6'2 @ 210 lbs @ 12%
First cycle was Test-e 500 1-12 Dbol 1-4
Heard the sides were pretty minimal if you do high tren low test. Wanted to take a step inbetween with deca or primo first but Tren just seems like the way to go, seeing as how deca shuts you down just as hard and makes you bloated as hell. I'd rather take night sweats and possibly insomnia
First cycle was Test-e 500 1-12 Dbol 1-4
Heard the sides were pretty minimal if you do high tren low test. Wanted to take a step inbetween with deca or primo first but Tren just seems like the way to go, seeing as how deca shuts you down just as hard and makes you bloated as hell. I'd rather take night sweats and possibly insomnia
Metalhead
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There are more sides other than insomnia and sweats. Irritability will almost certainly happen and you have to be strong headed to control. Not to mention cardio going down the shitter. Tren is a phenomenal drug so I hope you've done your research like others have mentioned. Go with ace definitely. Do you habe an ai? Dopamine agonist on hand in case of prolactin? Liver support? How old are you also?
Mad- scientist
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Honestly I really want to do tren also and I feel like I know all the side effects and pre cautions to take. But I personally think that im going to take every ones advice and wait tell I have done more cycles for the simple fact that I feel like its all the smart members with lots of posts that say to wait. And I would rather take their advice than believe that I am the exception than hate tren because I wasn't ready for it and be afraid to run I again. I had more experience honestly with pro hormones all the really strong ones from when they where legal. And ive done steroids to. But I did learn that its better to ease into something and be ready for it because some of the shit out there will really fuck with your head and its a lot harder when you are in a panic and don't know what to do and your trying to fix your self up. Than when you are calm and reading about it all. Its just a lot harder to know what to do because when shit go's really wrong its hard not to panic and to keep your head on straight.
Are stats are similar
I did it as a second cycle but 5ootest e and 250 tren e
I flat lined around 7 weeks stopped at 9 due to high estrogen and prolactin
Amazing gains my weight leveled out at a 2olb gain with my eating 3500ish calories everyday.
I didn't have any real sides except high estrogen.
Maybe alittle restless but that's not unusual anyway for me.
I wouldn't do it again tho. But i prolly will if that makes any sense, lol
I did it as a second cycle but 5ootest e and 250 tren e
I flat lined around 7 weeks stopped at 9 due to high estrogen and prolactin
Amazing gains my weight leveled out at a 2olb gain with my eating 3500ish calories everyday.
I didn't have any real sides except high estrogen.
Maybe alittle restless but that's not unusual anyway for me.
I wouldn't do it again tho. But i prolly will if that makes any sense, lol
halfwit
I like turtles.
Bloat is usually a byproduct of elevated estrogen, not the compound itself. I have tried both low and high doses of test with tren and personally found very little difference, but that's the thing with AAS: everyone responds differently. I'm not going to try to talk you out of it, but as Metalhead mentioned, there are a LOT more sides than just sweating at night and insomnia.
Metalhead
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Exactly.I don't believe anyone here is trying to scare anyone from using anything. Just giving out the best advice to HELP not scare. Op if you're going to run tren, I strongly advise you to do tren a as half mentioned, and know what sides may occur and how to handle them. Other than that, if you do run it, I wish you the best because its an amazing cycle
Bloat is usually a byproduct of elevated estrogen, not the compound itself. I have tried both low and high doses of test with tren and personally found very little difference, but that's the thing with AAS: everyone responds differently. I'm not going to try to talk you out of it, but as Metalhead mentioned, there are a LOT more sides than just sweating at night and insomnia.
Exactly.I don't believe anyone here is trying to scare anyone from using anything. Just giving out the best advice to HELP not scare. Op if you're going to run tren, I strongly advise you to do tren a as half mentioned, and know what sides may occur and how to handle them. Other than that, if you do run it, I wish you the best because its an amazing cycle
sadpanda
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I'm on my second cycle right now and its tren and test
too be honest, my biggest tip, keep your test low 200ish/week
and ur tren around 350, and then up it if u want by a little bit
i'm at 280mg test/w and 630mg tren/w
i was an emotional wreck when my test was moderate 500-600mg and my tren was around 420mg
after i dropped my test, i feel great, back to normal almost (mentally and emotionally).
its on wreck of a ride i gotta say, personally, keep it for a summer time drug away from school, or any other big obligations such as a co-op work term.
It can really fuck you mentally at times.
too be honest, my biggest tip, keep your test low 200ish/week
and ur tren around 350, and then up it if u want by a little bit
i'm at 280mg test/w and 630mg tren/w
i was an emotional wreck when my test was moderate 500-600mg and my tren was around 420mg
after i dropped my test, i feel great, back to normal almost (mentally and emotionally).
its on wreck of a ride i gotta say, personally, keep it for a summer time drug away from school, or any other big obligations such as a co-op work term.
It can really fuck you mentally at times.
Mad- scientist
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what are the mental sides. Like how do they present themselves is it just angry all the time or is it one of those weird angers where some one did something that really shouldn't piss you off but for some reason it does. I found that certain steroids made me always take something some one said the worst way possible. And I immediately got offended and pissed off. And did you notice high anxiety or depression from tren? Im just curious.
sadpanda
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lets just say i was constantly pissed off at my gf for no reason lol
was pissed at my family, co workers, the littlest things got to me, plus u get paranoid about stupid things, and just restless, its hard to describe but you pretty much go all quiet and depressed and the littest things will set you off and u will rage for no reason.
most ppl as me, are you mad/sad? why are you so quiet, and i just say "i'm tired"
Mad- scientist
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lol so your a angry panda. Ha ha ha I get what you mean that makes sense. I can actually remember getting like that a few different times. And feeling all the blood run to my face when on different anabolics. Thank you for the reply man.
recessionfever
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tren E tends to have more sides if you can do tren A. Tren E fucked with me good.. tren A never had a side besides crazy sweats but i like it. hope it works out for you.
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