Gq's 1st Cycle

[SYMPLI_GQ]

hey hows everyone doing??

I've been readin along for a little while now, and thought I might finally add a line or two to the forum.

So i started my first cycle at the beginning if this month (june/04)

Stats
age: 25
wt: 210
ht: 5'11
bf%: I dont even wanna know!!! (maybe like 18-20%? never tested)
yrs training: 6, but I got fat after tearing my acl and sittin on my ass for a yr!!!

wks 1-3--- dbol 25mg ed
wks 2-8--- Sustanon (sust) 500-750 mg ( 2 shots a wk)
wks 4-12--- clen/eca 2 wks each
wks 5-11--- T3 taper up taper down
wks 6-12--- Winstrol (winny) 50 mg ed
wks 4-12--- nolva 40 mg ed

training
cardio 5x/wk 30-45 mins
weights 5 days a week (different body part each day, heavy weights)

diet (for cutting)
220-280 g's protein ed
>80 g's carbs ed
>30 g's fat (mostly from olive oil) ed


So bassically im tryin to get (like most people want to) ripped to freakin death!!! my turn to Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) was for the extra boost. i worked hard in the gym (b4 acl blew) and played football and was somewhat close to my goal, but still far away. now i cant play, but still want the pysique. YA I KNO, DIET AND CARDIO!! DIET AND CARDIO! but we're all using Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) cause they give us that extra little bit. so far so good

oh! wen does the sus kick in?!? its been a month already?!?

any suggestions for me would be greatly appreciated.

-GQ

 

[DADAWG]

that is a terrible first cycle , you should run test only the first cycle and even if you did want to run dbol the dbol and test should have started at the same time . sus250 should be run a minimum of 10 weeks imo.your test will just be kickin in good when your 6 weeks is up . you cant run winnie during your post cycle therapy (pct) [ nolva] you have to wait till the cycle is over to start post cycle therapy . i could go on but you have managed to do or plan doing wrong almost everything possible . why didnt you join and start posting so you could learn what to do before you started your cycle .

 

[SYMPLI_GQ]

hey dawg! maybe u miss understood me, probably my fault i wrote it wrong. Im not tryin to get big, im sittin on a good 180-190lbs of muscle from my football days, but after my injury i got really fat. Fat loss is my primary goal. Im only takin the sus so i dont loose all the muscle with the t3. and im not using the nolva so much as post cycle therapy (pct) but as an anti estrogen because i dont want ANY estrogen side effects to make me even fatter. I know proviron would have been the better anti-e for me to get but it was unavailable and is on order.
about the dbol, i only used it for 3 weeks then gave it up cause it was making me fat, which is wen i got on the nolva.

I do greatly appreciate your help, (a little harsh tho) its exactly wat i was hopin someone wud do. Maybe i didnt make it clear tho that fat loss is my primary goal, not entering mr. olympia.

i dint know about the winne and nolva conflicting tho, i thought they might work together to harden me up and loose the water and fat. I read on here about someone using nolva to loose fat. you sayin i shud maybe not use the winnie this cycle?? ( i have not started it yet) right now im on wk 4 so im only takin nolva and sust.) As of friday i start the clen and t3 cycle.

shud i extend the Sustanon (sust) to 10 or 12 wks instead of just 6? would changing over to primo be a better decision now that im cutting??

thanks again dawg, any other advice is appreciated.
-GQ

 

[DADAWG]

nolva is not a antiestrogen , it will not prevent test from aromatizing into estrogen and it will not prevent bloat or "estrogen fat " , nolva prevents estrogen from binding with breast tissue to prevent gyno.extend the sus to 10-12 weeks 500 mg is plenty for your goals . get liquidex or liquid femara from one of the research companies to prevent bloat from test/dbol . dbol didnt make you fat it caused water retention / bloat which made you look fatter but once the water leaves your bloated appearance will to .winnie and nolva dont conflict but the way you wrote you post it appeared to me you were using it for post cycle therapy (pct) and you cant run post cycle therapy (pct) while you are still running winnie or test or dbol or any steroid

 

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