Gq's Revised Lean Mass/cutter Cycle

[SYMPLI_GQ]

Wats up 'Ology?!?
Want to start off by thankin everyone again for the advice on my winter cutter. Got alot of advice from some real cool fellas! (if you didnt read it u can find it under "GQ" in the search titled "Cycle #2-> lean mass and cutting")

I've decided to take everyones advice and dropped the EQ from the cycle.

So the new cutting cycle will be a typical test/tren cycle.

tren 75 mg EOD wks 1-12
Test prop 50 mg EOD wks 1-12
winny 50 mg ED wks 4-12
T3
clen/EC (2wks on/off alternating)

I kno the dosages are low, but I figured since Im running everything a little long (12 wks) it might be a good idea to lower the dose. Is this good logic?? or is a higher dosage for a shorter time better??
Would test E and liquid Arimidex be a better alternative instead of prop??

cycle starts dec 1/04!

thanks in advanced
GQ

 

[JohnnyB]

My advise is always run test at the same or more then your tren. In this cycle 100mg of prop eod

JohnnyB

 

[fr8tren]

i would run at least 100mg/eod prop; it won't hurt ya for 12 weeks

 

[blackbeard]

nothing wrong with low doses if your continuing to see gains from them..

but i would definitely do what JB said up the test or lower the tren..your choice!

 

[SYMPLI_GQ]

Hey guys, the info so far is wicked, Ill up the prop.

One question tho...

On my last cycle (sust 500/wk for 12 wks) I developed quite a bit of water bloat. By upping my prop on this cycle to basically 400/wk will I experience the same kind of bloat??? Im trying to decide if I should get some Adex as well?? or should I wait and see how it goes??

okay sorry, two questions...

Instead of shootin like 3-4 mls EOD, is it possible to alternate btwn tren and prop on different days so as to lower the amount of oil on each shootin day or shud they be shot on the same days???
ie: tren M,W,F,Su,T.... prop T,Th,Sa,M... or both on m,w,f,,su,t etc

thanks again
GQ

 

[r.gotti]

prop doesnt have the property of a water retention drug and in addition to that you are doing Winstrol (winny) and clen, t3

 

[blackbeard]

prop doesnt have the property of a water retention drug and in addition to that you are doing Winstrol (winny) and clen, t3

not exactly true...some will experience bloat on prop..

heres what i would do since whenever you need something urgent it seems your sources can go dry..get the adex as well as whatever you need to complete your cycle as well as post cycle therapy (pct) and have all on hand before you even start..its much easier that way..i would rather delay the start of my cycle instead of neding something in an emergency that shows up too late!!!

 

[SYMPLI_GQ]

GOOD POINT BB
ADEX and post cycle therapy (pct) have been ordered!

any advice on the scheduling of shots??

thanks guys!
GQ

 

[Starkraven]

the shots really dont matter. i would shoot the test/tren in the same pin bro. this is the least of your worries. Good luck.

 

[JohnnyB]

Bro if your t3 doses are up toward the 100mcg mark or higher, you may want to add some LR3 to help preserve muscle. Reason being Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) raises IGF-1 to help with the muscle building or preserving process. The thing is t3 raises IGF-1 BP after about 50mcg, the LR3 doesn't bind to IGF-1 BP very well so you have elevated IGF-1 levels to help with the presevation or building of your muscle.

JohnnyB

 

[SYMPLI_GQ]

jonny.... LR3?? rackin my brains to figure out what that is

-GQ

 

[Xe0n]

IGF-1 LR3

The sites sponsors, Ancillaryguys.com sell it by the way.

 

[SYMPLI_GQ]

thanks jonny for the advice (and X for the clarification) Ill definitely look into the IGF.

I dont kno if u are aware, but this test/tren cycle is only my 2nd, so with that in mind, is the IGF still a good idea?? And exactly how is it used (dose, frequency, duration, etc)?? The search function isnt bringing up too many specifics on the subject.

-GQ