Gyno or paranoia?

VAF

New member
Hi Everyone,

I recently started my first AAS cycle although it wasnt quite as I planned. I originally wanted to run a 10 week cycle of test p X 500 mg a week. My plan was to use arimidex to negate any estrogen effects and HcG to maintain testicular size and then nolva for 4 weeks as a post cycle therapy (pct). However, I have only one source and he refused to get any pct's or AI's for me. He has never used a pct or Aromatase inhibitor (AI) in over a decade of steroid use and told me they were a waste of money. Due to his experience and physique I decided to defer to his judgment. He convinced me to run this cycle:
Week 1
25 mg Dbols once a day
Week 2-15
25 mg Dbols every other day
weeks 1-10
test E 500 mg per week
primobolan 100 mg per week
weeks 11-15
test E 500 mg per week
equipoise 200mg per week

Anways, I started this cycle last week and only several days in I started noticing more sensation in my nipples. I have always had a lot of sensitivity in that area but I believe there is slightly more now. They are not itchy, there are no lumps that I can feel, when I touch them there is no immediate pain but some that comes directly after I stop applying pressure. It is worst in the morning when I wake up and gets progressively better throughout the day. I spoke to my source and he told me that I was not taking enough juice to experience any gyno and that I was imagining this.

I'd like the opinions of board members here. I wouldn't call the pain significant but it has persisted for about 5 days now. I have a tendency to scare myself and I know I have made it worse by continuously touching the area but I also am definitely more aware of the area as it brushes clothing etc. I have the sensation that my nipples are hard all day but they never are when I check.

I have decided to stop taking any AAS until after I can secure arimidex, nolva, and clomid. I am still trying to figure out a source for them but I believe I have a website that can at least give me the nolva and clomid.

What are your thoughts? Am I paranoid or should I be worried. In 10 days, I have taken
750 mg test E
200 mg primobolan
200 mg Dbol

Is it plausible that I could be feeling the early effects of gyno after such a short period?

Any advice is greatly appreciated. I'm headed to the gym now but I will check all responses tonight. Thank you for your time.

:dienewbie
 
Don't take AAS advise from your source anymore. Up your dbol dose, you are waisting it.

Sorry I can't help on the gyno, but it may be a bad idea to just stop taking all juice. Should have just used test, had an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) ready and post cycle therapy (pct) is a must... Which is why you may not want to stop.

Letro can be hard on you, but it will most likely halt your problem. Or go with aromasin or arimidex for an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). If it were me, I'd continue the test and order an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and post cycle therapy (pct) ASAP from a sponsor.
 
There is no way for me to know for sure, what i do know for sure is your cycle is not good.

Well I guess no one would be able to know for sure online. Would you be worried given a similar set of circumstances? Would you believe stopping at this point would prevent any serious side effects or would you recommend coming clean to a doctor to try to get some AI's quickly?

Also, what is bad about the cycle and how would you fix?

Thanks.
 
Don't take AAS advise from your source anymore. Up your dbol dose, you are waisting it.

Sorry I can't help on the gyno, but it may be a bad idea to just stop taking all juice. Should have just used test, had an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) ready and post cycle therapy (pct) is a must... Which is why you may not want to stop.

Letro can be hard on you, but it will most likely halt your problem. Or go with aromasin or arimidex for an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). If it were me, I'd continue the test and order an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and post cycle therapy (pct) ASAP from a sponsor.

Thanks so much for responding! I tried to PM you when I posted the thread but it wouldnt let me. Two questions:
1. In what dosages would you continue using test and why? (Why not just stop after 3 injections?)
2. When you say "sponsor" are you referring to the ads on the side of the page?
 
its your first cycle, all u should be running is test bro. sounds like your source is a fuckin idiot. if he is so smart he shoulda put u on test only. and he shoulda got u an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to have on hand and definitely a post cycle therapy (pct). u should knee him in the sack bro
 
1 for beginners test is usually dosed at 500 mg/ week. I am not real sure how much your natural test will shut down, but just stopping with no post cycle therapy (pct) is dangerous because all your natty test is shut down. You should really research AAS a bit more bro. Most people would bash you for posting what you did... But since you have already started, you need to take precautions and do some research. Hope you diet and training is in check too...

2 more specifically the ad up top.
 
Sensitve nips is common, but the whole reason for running test first cycle is o see how you react, now you don't know which compound is actually causing it, so you should stop the use of all of them until you know what your doing, for all you know your very estro sensitive and should be running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) from the very beginning , you may also be gyno prone, all reasons to run test only first cycle, stop taking anything and get ready to start pct before you do get gno or worse, your buddy is an idiot
 
Hey guys I really appreciate it. I have read a number of those threads and as I said in my first post, my original plan was just to run test for 10 weeks. My source has one of the best physiques I've ever seen in my life and years of experience with gear so I deferred to him. It sounds like its probably a mistake though. I am definitely a newb but have been diligently researching for a while, it just so happens that the only source I had for gear wouldnt get me what I asked for.

When do you play in a crooked poker game...when its the only game in town
 
If you think you signs of gyno and you don't have Aromatase inhibitor (AI) or SERMS... stop fucking taking the AAS. Taking more juice won't reduce gyno, it will make it worse.

Order Arimidex and Nolva and Clomid. If you order from GWP, you should have your order in 2-3 days. You can run adex and restart your cycle, or post cycle therapy (pct) and try again later.

Thanks to you as well, now I just have to figure out what GWP is......
 
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