hornedfrogs07
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Ok. I've posted a coupla other times (bitching, mainly) regarding my man tits. I used to be a fat kid, weighing in at 196 or so with over 36 % BF my freshman year of high school. Now, in my freshman year of college, I weigh 197 or so with 10-13% BF. However, when I was fat, I developed some rather large (F***ing huge) gynocomastia, bilaterally. (I read something, scientific research I think, that had to do with fat blocking testosterone, thereby allowing higher estrogen levels, which lead to bitch tits. Am I imagining this link?) Anyway, I've had these since my very early teens, if not a little before, and I absolutely cannot get rid of them. As I've lost fat and gained muscle, they've gotten much smaller, but I still have large fat deposits in my lower chest, around the nipples (which are HUGE in themselves).
I know this has to be genetic, just because of the way in which I showed up so long ago. To give you an idea of how long this has been a psychological and/or physical problem with me, I first discussed surgery with my doctor when I was 13 or so, 14 at the latest. I just never went through with it because I was always a fatass, and I figured that I'd look really goofy with a flat chest and huge jelly rolls everywhere else.
There is no lump behind the nipple or pain associated with my case, although most people complain about these symptoms. It is simply just a fat deposit and enlarged nipple that will not go away, no matter what I try.
Anyway, my questions are:
1) What can I do, short of surgery, to get rid of this problem. I ran cross country the last 3 years, so increasing cardio isn't the answer to eliminating fat in that area.
Would something like what Severed Ties is talking about here work:
Comparison of Tamoxifen with Danazol in the Management of Idiopathic Gynecomastia ALBERT C.W. TING, M.B.B.S., F.R.C.S.,* LOUIS W.C. CHOW, M.B.B.S., F.R.C.S.,* Y.F. LEUNG,? M.B.B.S., M.R.C.PATH.?
Idiopathic gynecomastia, unilateral or bilateral, is a common physical finding in normal men. Successful treatment using tamoxifen (antiestrogen) and danazol (antiandrogen) has recently been reported. We compared the efficacy of tamoxifen and danazol in the treatment of idiopathic gynecomastia. We reviewed the clinical records of patients with idiopathic gynecomastia presenting to the Department of Surgery, University of Hong Kong, between August 1990 and September 1995. Medical treatment with either tamoxifen (20 mg/d) or danazol (400 mg/d) was offered and continued until a static response was achieved. The treatment response was compared. Sixty-eight patients with idiopathic gynecomastia were seen in the Breast Clinic. The median age was 39.5 years (range, 13--82), with a median duration of symptoms of 3 months (range, 1--90). The median size was 3 cm (range, 1--7). Twenty-three patients were treated with tamoxifen and 20 with danazol. Complete resolution of the gynecomastia was recorded in 18 patients (78.2%) treated with tamoxifen, whereas only 8 patients (40%) in the danazol group had complete resolution. Five patients, all from the tamoxifen group, developed recurrence of breast mass. In conclusion, hormonal manipulation is effective in the treatment of patients with idiopathic gynecomastia. Although the effect is more marked for tamoxifen compared with danazol, the relapse rate is higher for tamoxifen. Further prospective randomized studies would be useful in defining the role of these drugs in the management of patients with idiopathic gynecomastia.
ST
2) Just for future reference, when I do finally hit my first cycle in a year or two, would having this preexisting gyno condition make me more predisposed to developing/worsening of my gyno than a normal BBer without preexisting tits?
Thanks,
Oggie
I know this has to be genetic, just because of the way in which I showed up so long ago. To give you an idea of how long this has been a psychological and/or physical problem with me, I first discussed surgery with my doctor when I was 13 or so, 14 at the latest. I just never went through with it because I was always a fatass, and I figured that I'd look really goofy with a flat chest and huge jelly rolls everywhere else.
There is no lump behind the nipple or pain associated with my case, although most people complain about these symptoms. It is simply just a fat deposit and enlarged nipple that will not go away, no matter what I try.
Anyway, my questions are:
1) What can I do, short of surgery, to get rid of this problem. I ran cross country the last 3 years, so increasing cardio isn't the answer to eliminating fat in that area.
Would something like what Severed Ties is talking about here work:
Comparison of Tamoxifen with Danazol in the Management of Idiopathic Gynecomastia ALBERT C.W. TING, M.B.B.S., F.R.C.S.,* LOUIS W.C. CHOW, M.B.B.S., F.R.C.S.,* Y.F. LEUNG,? M.B.B.S., M.R.C.PATH.?
Idiopathic gynecomastia, unilateral or bilateral, is a common physical finding in normal men. Successful treatment using tamoxifen (antiestrogen) and danazol (antiandrogen) has recently been reported. We compared the efficacy of tamoxifen and danazol in the treatment of idiopathic gynecomastia. We reviewed the clinical records of patients with idiopathic gynecomastia presenting to the Department of Surgery, University of Hong Kong, between August 1990 and September 1995. Medical treatment with either tamoxifen (20 mg/d) or danazol (400 mg/d) was offered and continued until a static response was achieved. The treatment response was compared. Sixty-eight patients with idiopathic gynecomastia were seen in the Breast Clinic. The median age was 39.5 years (range, 13--82), with a median duration of symptoms of 3 months (range, 1--90). The median size was 3 cm (range, 1--7). Twenty-three patients were treated with tamoxifen and 20 with danazol. Complete resolution of the gynecomastia was recorded in 18 patients (78.2%) treated with tamoxifen, whereas only 8 patients (40%) in the danazol group had complete resolution. Five patients, all from the tamoxifen group, developed recurrence of breast mass. In conclusion, hormonal manipulation is effective in the treatment of patients with idiopathic gynecomastia. Although the effect is more marked for tamoxifen compared with danazol, the relapse rate is higher for tamoxifen. Further prospective randomized studies would be useful in defining the role of these drugs in the management of patients with idiopathic gynecomastia.
ST
2) Just for future reference, when I do finally hit my first cycle in a year or two, would having this preexisting gyno condition make me more predisposed to developing/worsening of my gyno than a normal BBer without preexisting tits?
Thanks,
Oggie
