has anybody here added deca to their testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) protocol?

[username1]

has anybody here added deca to their TRT protocol?

I'm on the conservative protocol so I'm on test cyp 200mg e5d. After the first protocol is complete, for the next I was thinking of adding deca. Since I have always had issues with my knees, was a running injury from a while back. I just want to wait until the first protocol is complete since I don't want to add too many things at once right now and go slow since this is my first time on TRT.

So, if I add deca when I renew the next protocol, I was wondering would I also get muscular benefits and gain strength from the deca? Or is it not possible at low doses (200mg a week for example) ? I mean as long as I get help with my knees I'll be happy but, still if while I'm using it I wouldn't mind if I gained strength but, just wasn't sure if it was possible or not at these doses.

Has anybody else here added deca to their testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) protocol what was your experience?

If so, what was your dose like? Since I hear that deca has to be less than test or else you get side effects so if I'm at 200mg test would they raise my test to allow deca or would the deca be reduced to something like 50mg or whatever so that the test is much higher?

 

[MoparMuscle]

For joints 80-150mg is enough (depending on person).

For muscle growth I'd personally say a MIN of 300-400mg Wk, low cycle dose but 600+ is better. Both (low and med dose) of Which wouldn't qualify as testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) .

 

[DJ77]

Username, it wasn't but a few weeks ago when you were asking weather or not you should use a band-aid after your test injection. Now your already to move on to deca ?

For starters sounds like your planning on ordering deca from Maximus, correct? Sorry bro they dont prescribe deca. You just started your protocol! You can do soooo much with healthy test levels and a killer diet and workout routine....200mg of test is a soild dose.

Not to mention your not even dialed in yet with Test. Be patient and work hard and you'll get there.

 

[j2048b]

usually 2 to 1 ration, 1 cc of test to about a half cc or less for deca, but u cant get it anymore leagally as the fda has removed it, i believe?

 

[Dog of War]

Username, it wasn't but a few weeks ago when you were asking weather or not you should use a band-aid after your test injection. Now your already to move on to deca ?

For starters sounds like your planning on ordering deca from Maximus, correct? Sorry bro they dont prescribe deca. You just started your protocol! You can do soooo much with healthy test levels and a killer diet and workout routine....200mg of test is a soild dose.

Not to mention your not even dialed in yet with Test. Be patient and work hard and you'll get there.

Actually Bro yes it can be prescribed but its not cheap...

 

[DJ77]

Dog of war is correct... It is listed in their prescription sheet. I checked before I posted but over looked it.... My bad.

 

[Dog of War]

Dog of war is correct... It is listed in their prescription sheet. I checked before I posted but over looked it.... My bad.

Hell man I didn't know either until I was told last year.. there is a really good post in the anabolic forum about cartilage regeneration that has some very good info I do believe they may have made it a sticky.

 

[username1]

Username, it wasn't but a few weeks ago when you were asking weather or not you should use a band-aid after your test injection. Now your already to move on to deca ?

For starters sounds like your planning on ordering deca from Maximus, correct? Sorry bro they dont prescribe deca. You just started your protocol! You can do soooo much with healthy test levels and a killer diet and workout routine....200mg of test is a soild dose.

Not to mention your not even dialed in yet with Test. Be patient and work hard and you'll get there.

lol yeah i know it wasn't that long ago that i could barely check my blood glucose lol

i know i'm not going to start it right now that's why i said maybe at the start of 2nd protocol since i don't want to add too many things at once and i'm working on all those things diet and workout routine, I'm already pushing myself harder in workouts and eating more than I used to but, I'm just planning ahead for the 2nd protocol. I would like to supplement with something else if possible and I'm not sure if I should move up to the moderate or aggressive protocol if Danazol is that much effective and worth the cost etc. anyway I have more research to do but, I'm probably getting too excited already and thinking too much about getting better and better.

I saw deca on the price list and I searched this forum for every thread regarding deca and in a post Chip also mentions they prescribe it.

Really though I do have some issues with my knees when I first started exercising years ago, I must've jumped in too fast and of all things I messed up my knees in trying to run and it was outside and I don't know how the hell you mess up your knees in running but, it was outside and since it wasn't a complete flat surface, maybe my form was retarded I don't know what I did but, my knees aren't the same since. I can still feel it when my knees are bent like when I'm driving, I had gone to the dr. when it felt really bad when it first happened and they put a brace on it and that was it. It's not as bad as it was but, it comes and goes and I can usually feel it after I run. I don't know maybe after being on test it will recover more, since I think I recall reading somewhere on the net that runners inject test cyp to repair or recover from injury quicker.

I'll see what happens at the end of the first protocol.

 

[zoofus]

I use deca in my protocol. Makes a decent difference to joints and impact on strength/training is significant. Cost is about double test in my case. It's helped me significantly but I wouldn't rush things if you are just starting. Get dialed in and go from there.

 

[adrian2401]

I too use Nandrolone for my joint pain. Only 200MG (or 1ML)/E7D.
I have been using it for about 5 weeks and it has been a tremendous help in regard to alleviating my severe joint pain.

 

[j2048b]

now does deca also make u hold more water, and any sides such as short temper? just asking because a buddy was on it for his joints and test for hrt, and was a major

a hole!

im thinking of getting some, but not sure how to couple it with the test,hcg, and my ai?

any one care to share how they use it along with their protocoll?

 

[username1]

I too use Nandrolone for my joint pain. Only 200MG (or 1ML)/E7D.
I have been using it for about 5 weeks and it has been a tremendous help in regard to alleviating my severe joint pain.

I'm assuming it's through maximus, did they have to increase your test also to prevent deca dick, so that it's a 2:1 ratio?

lastly did you notice any strength increase or muscular benefts on that dose or only joint pain relief?

 

[MoparMuscle]

TRT joint dose of deca of 150mg (takes 8 wks or so to fully kick in) is enough for great joint help (helps with joint related issues not muscle or tendon related much). Won't effect dick. Wont bloat you. Wont noticeably help anyone with muscle growth if they already have a 1/2 way decent muscle mass base anymore then testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dosed test would. If you want muscle growth more then natural you'll need to visit the aas section and look at a REAL cycle.

 

[adrian2401]

I'm assuming it's through maximus, did they have to increase your test also to prevent deca dick, so that it's a 2:1 ratio?

lastly did you notice any strength increase or muscular benefts on that dose or only joint pain relief?

Slight strength increase, however, I think it is because my joints are more cushioned and that makes it easier to strength train.

I kept my protocol the same. I have no issues with deca-dick....I just don't think about it....

 

[Misc]

didnt know deca was available thru maximus. he should setup a client login portal to the site so if your an existing client you can view updated protocols.

 

[MoparMuscle]

Slight strength increase, however, I think it is because my joints are more cushioned and that makes it easier to strength train.
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Exactly. If you've got a joint that's toast and surgery wont help then deca will mask/hide the issue. Allowing you to train harder. I run it at 150mg Wk year round. If I were to drop the deca the issue will still be there since training hard while an injury is hidden/masked won't help healing lol....

 

[username1]

Ok so I'm guessing if you're able to dose 150mg wk year round that means you dont' need to worry about caber or the other meds to prevent side effects? and if you stopped it after a while then you wouldn't need PCT?

 

[MoparMuscle]

PCT only applies to people not on TRT

It's not a high enough dose to: act as a aas type cycle, bloat you or effect dick so no need for caber or the like. It will mask JOINT related pain and that about it. It might help or might hinder healing depending on what study you read.